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The judge overseeing former President Donald Trump’s Jan. 6 case has reinstated the gag order she imposed following a stay.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why was it ever dropped to begin with? That shithead’s mouth should be wired shut permanently.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 15 points 1 year ago

Wasn't.

It was put on hold while both sides argued for and against it.

The prosecutor won the argument and the hold was removed.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

However, details of Chutkan’s ruling were not immediately available due to an outage of the court’s system that makes filings and rulings available to the public. [From Politico]

Which means that we don't yet know if she also modified his conditions of release or modified the scope of the gag order.

[–] Dressedlikeapenguin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good point. What's the over/under that it stricter?

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

CNN is reporting that the information comes as a brief entry in a docket between 6:30 PM and 7:00 PM on a Sunday.

The timing indicates that there's a "sense of urgency" about it, possibly to get it on the record before the Trump family takes the stand all week in New York, where you know there's going to be hallway commentary multiple times a day.

Stricter? I don't think it's likely that the scope of Chutkan's gag order will change. It's possible that the scope will be more specifically clarified. The real question is whether Chutkan will modify Trump's conditions of release to include this gag order. That should happen, so that when he violates it, the law states that his pre-trial release is terminated.

Note that I said "the law says" and not "he will go to detention pending trial." Because no matter what anyone says, he will never see any real consequences for anything he ever does.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Yes, but i don't like hearing my lotto odds either. Let me dream of a fair justice system.

[–] Dressedlikeapenguin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I fear you are right. Though the original Teflon Don got his eventually.

Gotti died of throat cancer on June 10, 2002, at the United States Medical Center for Federal Prisoners in Springfield, Missouri.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pick the appropriate line from here.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh, your link is recursive?

[–] Nougat@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago

Should lead you to my profile page, where I list the things that I find myself having to repeat:

  • If the punishment is a fine, it's only illegal for poor people.
  • American Fascist Party
  • We call people what they want to be called.
  • I decline to answer any questions without an attorney present, and I do not consent to any search.
  • Seize the means of production.
  • Some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses.
[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When did this over/under thing become popular in Lemmy? It's the second time I see it this week.

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

First time seeing it for me. Do you know how to interpret it?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it's a gambling term.

For example with sports. Somebody sets a predicted score for a particular match, and then you place a bet if it's over or under that.

[–] charles@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As mentioned by another poster, it's a gambling term. But when someone asks "what's the over/under on...", you're kind of asking "what's the number where there's a 50% chance of it being either higher or lower."

With that said, it doesn't really make sense in this context, imo. They could have just used "chance"

I'm not sure why I used it, I don't even know if I've used it in a real conversation. Felt good in the moment I guess? Maybe it was the memory of his failed casino that inspired me?

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Lock him up!

[–] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Over/under on how long until she throws his fat ass in jail?

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Who’s going to change his diaper if he’s in jail? Who’s going to smuggle his makeup and hairspray?

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She'll confiscate all of his Halloween candy when he violates the order.

Judge Chutkan means business, you see.

At least she's not just completely spiking the case like Judge Cannon. Pretty amazing how the whole nuclear-secrets-on-the-shitter story just sank into irrelevance when it became clear he was going to skate on it.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We've been sucking down the hopium like a Hollywood starlet at a snow party...

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And we're also gonna end up fucked and abandoned on a couch...

That's an odd way to spell "murdered" and "left in a ditch".