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I've bought a couple of refurbs off Amazon before. It's pretty much what you expect. Cheap, but they are not going to last long. I never used them in anything less than a RAID 6 setup, and they were the first drives to fail and be replaced. They can get you over the hump of having to order a whole set of new drives at once, but you shouldn't use more than a few and start replacing them as soon as you can because they may cascade under the load of rebuilding your array.

The one unexpected thing is the drive runtimes were wiped. I could verify by polling the last SMART runs which contained the runtime, and they were in the 4-5 year range.

As long as you buy drives shipped by Amazon, you get their full 30-day return policy. Just run a long SMART test when the disks arrive.

Aren't surveillance-rated drives a terrible investment for any long-term storage system (long-term being more than 3yrs)

I just bought (4) 8tb drives renewed from Amazon for $65 a piece. They are fine so far in my nas but each has 50k hours lol.

Bro, don't.

I have been meaning to write to Amazon and congress about the Chinese network equipment on Amazon that just suddenly sprung up.

I don't even buy Apple stuff on Amazon. I buy it through Best Buy.

Those look like Seagate. I stick to HGST/WD because Backblaze charts say so.

Please do not buy used storage unless you do not care about your data.

I just took a shot on a renewed Seagate 8TB drive, as I wouldn't be out any data if it died.

Only had like 72 power on hours. Seems to work great.

Which is the best seller in Europe?

link pleas?

do you guys recommend these renewed HDD?

I’ve been running one for a few weeks in my NAS as a parity drive.

It’s fine so far, but damn these are loud. Significantly more than my WD Red of the same capacity (12TB). It’s not a failing drive either, it’s just louder. Probably won’t buy another since my NAS lives in my home office (I’m in an apartment)

Drives, condomns and underwear ate a few of the product categories you don't buy used. Or you have to accept that what the previous owner did with them is going to haunt you.

Dang only have 2.5 inch space

Disctech.com is trustworthy for recertified drives. Have a bunch now going on a year with no problems.

I bought one of those from amz and it had a bad sector on it, had to return it for a brand new one

12 tb, and isnt sas ?

I’ve ordered a few refurb drives from Amazon. It’s hit or miss. I thoroughly test the drives. And definitely have a had to return a couple. But it’s Amazon. It’s super easy for returns.

I don't see any comments mentioning this, but you want to stay away from surveillance drives for any other use. They're really only designed for NVR purposes. For multi-purpose or NAS use you want NAS drives.

Someone is about to get a bag of rocks on their porch

I have a Synology loaded with the enterprise-grade 14TB version of those and so far, have had no failures. I have started swapping out 14TB drives for my offsite backup as well. I just have one of those as I only do those quarterly, but again, no issues.

My logic is this - if it’s for Linux ISOs only, go ahead and get it; if it’s for backups and important files - brand new is the only acceptable answer. (You can shuck them to save a few $$, but new none the less).

What Enclosure for 2 drives, Raid 1 with Samba support?

I had good experience with GoHardDrive.

Amazon refurbished have worked well for me. I have 24 in 2 NAS systems. 60 days uptime only 1 has died. Got another one and resilvered. No down time.

Meanwhile, in Europe we're shucking 10TB disks for 300 Euro -+ :|

Typically these (and the ones on eBay) are used data center drives that have started to show signs of failure, but are not actually failed. Sometimes it's not even that, they have just reached a certain time in service and been cycled out. For a home user these are a pretty good deal because they're enterprise quality drives that still have useful life left, and there's no way you're going to load them to the level they were designed to handle so they will probably last you several years.

The risk on these failing unexpectedly is higher because you don't really know how they were used previously. Run SMART tests on any that you buy as soon as you get them. As long as you're building some kind of redundancy into your array, you should be fine.

No, no, no, no. Nope. Heck no. Amazon packaging is terrible for electronics.

I want my drives to last 5 - 8 years at least before I even think about checking SMART stats.

Storage is 101% "you get what you pay for" status in my mind.

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so it might not be amazon selling these, secondly if I would sell you a car for $99 what do you think? sure this Tesla for 99 seems legit, lets do it?