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This is quite recent but I've been browsing Lemmy a bunch lately and quite often I see extreme grammatical errors.

I'm not talking about like, incorrect stylistic choices between commas and dashes, or an improper use of ellipses or missing commas or incorrect use of apostrophes in its/it's or in multiple posessive articles or just plain typos or any nitpicky grammar nazi shit like that, but just basic spelling specifically.

It's one thing when you can't spell some pretty uncommon words and you're too lazy to look it up and/or use autocorrect, but it's a completely different league to misspell very basic words, very recently I saw someone spell "extreme" as "extream" which is just kind of baffling, I actually can't even imagine how one would make such a mistake?

And it's not been an isolated thing either, I've seen several instances like that lately.

Am I going crazy? Is it just me?

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[–] DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

it's the mispeling vyrus

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

I, mean its only. Natural that weerd thangs criep into comments here und their

But it's been something increasing over time. Some of it is people just not paying attention, some of it is them relying on autocorrect and not spending the time to check what gets autoed. But, a lot of it is that people can't spell for shit, and don't care that they can't.

And, to be fair, as long as the basic idea of what you're saying gets across, how much effort is required? In your example, extreme vs extream, while one is correct, they both sound the same, and they even read the same. So if a person is just approximating the sound of the word, and never ran across it, do they have an obligation to go looking?

Now, obviously, extreme would be an unusual word to never have seen in print since it was over used in marketing for a long time. I'd expect xtreme to be the misspelling to show up. But even with a word that over saturated, does it matter?

I say no, it doesn't really matter. Yeah, I'd still offer someone the correct spelling, but that's just as a point of conversation rather than any obligation they have to spend their time and energy on vocabulary and/or spelling. As long as they aren't giving me shit for having put in time and effort into mine, and it's close enough to guess; or they're willing to communicate about that they meant if it isn't easy to guess.

For real, it does make my brain scream at me when I run across it. But that's my problem, not theirs.

Seriously, not everyone cares enough to edit it up. Why should they?

[–] Thrawne@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Thats my secret cap, i’ve always had poor spelling

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you’re talking about my messages, it’s because I swipe too fast and don’t check the message 9 times before posting. All sorts of weird nonsense slips through every day, some of which I edit later.

If you’re talking about how native English speakers spell, you’ll find all sorts of weird mistakes that seem to stem from the fact that English is pure chaos, and navigating this mess is about as easy as programming with a magnetized needle and a hard disk platter. The way I see it, mispronouncing every word in a consistent manner helps me remember how they are written. The trick is to use a consistent spelling system of another language to form an auditory memory of the spelling.

So in my mind, every word comes with three entries: what the word means, how it’s pronounced and how it’s written. Memorizing a combination of letters is hard, but memorizing a funny sound that you can later decrypt back to a sequence of letters is easier. That connection has to be 100% consistent, which is exactly what English can’t offer, but many other languages come pretty close.

If your first language happens to have a fairly consistent spelling system, you can totally use it to memorize how English words are spelled. Native English speakers are obviously completely screwed, and that’s why spelling bees are a thing and why this post exists.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How is swipe writing supposed to work? I've never seen it in action by someone IRL, and whenever I've tried it myself, it seemed to be way too much hassle vs just typing shit and using predicts to auto complete.

[–] gt24@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

What I like to call "glide texting" is when (on a phone) you put your finger on the first letter and drag your finger to the next letter and the next and so on without lifting your finger until you reach the last letter. Letters that are repeated (like in too) are just treated as one letter for this. Your phone will then "guess" what word could be represented by "what you just drew" and give you some options above the keyboard (3 for my phone) for alternatives in case things were guessed wrong. This requires your keyboard to support that feature (and the basic Android keyboard does support it). On earlier phones, the SwiftKey keyboard was used to do such things (that company was later on purchased by Microsoft by the way).

There are two issues I want to highlight with regards to glide texting.

First is where several words can be represented by one "glide text". I feel (can't prove) that the phone does use the context of your sentence to assist with word selection. However, you sometimes have to be annoyed and type out words letter by letter to get things entered.

The second issue is that your phone learns from you and from the "intelligent population". If you type in a wrong spelling (perhaps by not entering in the last letter) then your phone "learns" that word and starts to use it when glide texting. Second is when a person glide texts incorrectly (for "hello", instead of swiping over HELO they swipe over GWKO or BELO or something like that) and then that person taps the "Hello" entry for what that glide should mean. Now the phone starts thinking glide texts for a specific word (from anyone in the world) must mean some completely different word because the majority of people seem to indicate that.

Still, glide texting is usually a faster way to enter text on the phone. That being said, issues can be quite interesting when they do appear.

[–] pleasestopasking@reddthat.com 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Swipe typing is the cursive of smartphones. I love it, it's so much faster than regular typing (for me at least). I didn't realize how uncommon it is until several people commented on me using it.

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There's a strain of "cutesy" spelling going around where swapping vowels is somehow significant. I just put these people on the blocklist, they have nothing useful to say anyway.

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[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

W3 g01ng b@ck 2 typ31ng 1n l33t?

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Idk i ditnt notise anyting unujual

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago

The Android keyboard always worked well for me, but I don't trust them one bit. So I changed my phone keyboard into something that is worse at guessing what I'm trying to say, but I'm somewhat confident I am not being surveilled through it.

I started using it a month or two ago, and ever since I have started making a billion typos when writing on mobile.

Also, I guess the demography of the communities you're in matters. I think quite a few of us over here are not native speakers. Sometimes I'll also write with my keyboard set to the wrong language by accident, "leasing to all mines" of freaky autocorrects.

[–] theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 4 days ago

I've noticed the same thing, including on stuff that should be spell checked like news articles. Its not even rare. I've also noticed my phone (current android) it has been making it nearly impossible to overrule errant spelling even if it is not correctly changing it.

Overall I believe its entirely the lack of proof reading. Please god I proof read this let it contain no errors.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You are now interacting with other nationalities and ethnicities maybe?

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[–] Viskio_Neta_Kafo@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fuck the people who get simple words wrong. Our language is degrading as tikok and video shorts are on the rise and attention spans decline.

Soon enough people won't have the attention span to even write anymore.

[–] Mouette@jlai.lu 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Honestly I'm not doing much effort to be correct when writing English. As long as people get more or less my point I do not really care

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[–] GreatRam@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I switched to Heliboard and the autocorrect just isn't as good as gboard. It's worth it for me for the privacy but I have to constantly reread my messages

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 2 points 3 days ago

tze fone keebord iz wery smol

itz werry deefeekult tuu tipe vordz korrektly

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

I make mistakes because my replies are often my stream-of-consciousness, and the primary review is mainly to make sure I even want to reply to the comment at all. I don't use autocorrect so my fingers slip frequently.

If you look through my comment history, a good chunk are edited because I catch more grammatical errors in my comment after I post. I suppose most others don't bother.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Just imagine you having to fix a thousand pages of this. I feel your pain.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 days ago

Most of my stupid spelling mistakes, missing words, and other typing errors are because I developed the terrible habit of proofreading only in the instant between hitting the post button and the subsequent UI refresh. The better my lemmy host is running, the lower the readability of what I've posted.

I've also noticed that muscle memory does some strange stuff to my typing. Like in the first sentence of this comment I typed "instance" rather than "instant." I meant instant but, since I work with AWS 5 days a week, my fingers autopiloted instance because I type it much more often.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I make a ton of stupid spelling mistakes just because of typing on mobile 99% of the time. For some reason I CONSTANTLY miss the keys I'm looking for, or manage to press them in the wrong order somehow; swapping Ns with Ms, T with Y, R>T, B>N, inserting spaces too early, doubling up characters.

If i nevsr look up and jus tkeep typing, I end of with a garbled mess just liek this sentence is.

This can get much worse if I use the next word suggestions. I'll spot the suggestion I want, but continue to press the next letter; this changes what's being suggested, or just moves it to a different position (centered vs the two options to the side) but I still press where I first saw it which is now a totally different suggestion...

Lots and lots and lots of proof-reading. And I STILL fuck it up.

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I have turned metrics off on my phone keyboard and I swear it fucks up my choices.

[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Smart Technology has always been about removing our ability to effectively communicate with nuance and assess reality that's what it's for. Autocorrect so you can't spell, google maps so you can't find your way out of a paper bag without them. People's lexicons have diminished, substantially since 2007. The quantity and variety of expressions used have dropped off majorly. All this connection with people all over the world and we use it to maintain quasi social relationships with people we hardly care about. It's a joke.

[–] aegis_sum@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I think there are a few things happening.

More and more individuals are contributing to the Internet through social media rather than simply consuming. They are bringing their (lack of) spelling and grammar with them, resulting in the variety of mistakes you've noticed.

At the same time I have noticed more and more mistakes appearing in "professional" publications. I don't ever recall seeing a typo on an NPR website up until the past 1-2 years. Now I see grammatical and spelling mistakes almost everywhere.

I'm guessing it's a combination of laying off editors and using AI.

But at the end of the day, if a language isn't evolving, it's dead.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

recently I saw someone spell “extreme” as “extream” which is just kind of baffling, I actually can’t even imagine how one would make such a mistake?

There is a mountain of anecdotal evidence, and a small mound of scientific research, suggesting that psychedelics can improve creativity even in the long term. Ask your doctor if LSD or psilocybin might help with your imagination deficit.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

I've done LSD many times and while I've imagined impossible colours I could never imagine how that mistake might occur. Care to enlighten us?

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

There's a few I've noticed in the last seven years or so - lots of Americans can't seem to conjugate "run". It results in horrible sentences like "I used to ran this game" or "I have ran this event before". No idea why that's happening but squirt those people with a plant mister.

It's even worse than people who don't finish the words they're writing "suppose to" and the like. In the brine with thee!

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