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I am currently winding down the Mastodon bots I used to post sunrise and sunset times. The precipitating event is that the admin of the instance hosting the associated accounts demanded they be made nigh-undiscoverable, but the underlying cause is that it’s become increasing clear that Mastodon isn’t, and won’t ever be, a good platform for “asynchronous ephemeral notifications of any kind”. I’d also argue (more controversially) that it’s simply not good infrastructure for social networking of any kind. There are lots of interesting people using Mastodon, and I’m sure it will live on as a good-enough space for certain niche groups. But there is no question that it will never offer the fun of early Twitter, let alone the vibrancy of Twitter during its growth phase. I’ve long since dropped Mastodon from my home screen, and have switched to Bluesky for text-centric social media

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Federation does not work I’m not saying federation “won’t” work or “can’t” work. Merely that in 2025, nine years after deployment, federation does not work for the Mastodon use case.

I could opine at length about possible federated architectures and what I think the ActivityPub people clearly got wrong in hindsight.1 But the proof is in the pudding: Mastodon simply doesn’t show users the posts they ask to see, as I quickly

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago (59 children)

I'm really not sure that a microblogging platform is the right channel for sunrise and sunset times in the first place. Personally if I wanted that info, I'd go look up a table. But you're always welcome to host your own instance, if you want to (ab)use the protocol like this.

[–] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

Yeah this seems like a weird use case for Mastodon to me too. Also, the entire point of Mastodon is that no one entity can control it all. Switching to BlueSky is basically just falling straight back into the trap where someone can buy it out and repurpose it as a disinformation machine again. I'm not saying ActivityPub is perfect, mind you. Just that it sucks less (for me) than the alternative.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah I can get that from my weather app. That's probably why the admin doesn't want it to be discoverable.

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So they are complaining that their bots would be invisible, because on Twitter the algorithm would down-rank such bot spam hard and have the same effect? That person clearly has no clue what they are talking about and just wants to abuse a public instance for their pet project 🙄

Edit: finished reading the article... good riddance that they are gone. What a self-centered and toxic person 🤦

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

Appreciate it! I didn't even see that.

And now this one has a lot of comments. 😭

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

Fun contrast to what's happening on bluesky

https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/32751288

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