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[–] BinzyBoi@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"We meet the criteria" no you don't, you pulled several of your candidates and gave them the false pretext that you met the same criteria the other parties did.

The PPC didn't meet the criteria and neither did you, maybe next time grow a spine and run candidates in Conservative-likely ridings because the fight for your cause is worth the uphill battle.

As someone in a Conservative-likely riding, I'm furious that I wasn't given the option to vote and canvass for the Greens. Pedneault had me thinking that he was a positive change in the party leadership, and now the "strategic" decision to pull candidates in ridings like mine is coming to bite the party in the ass.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

I am so thoroughly disappointed in every other party, especially the NDP, and at this point I will not vote for anyone else until they get their heads on right and some real leaders in place. I was a lifetime NDP voter and volunteer. I am happily voting Liberal this election because Carney is the only leader worth the title with legitimate experience to navigate this shit show.

The NDP MP in my riding showed how dumb and fake he is with a Pierre style make over and a leather jacket, while the Liberal running against him has a B.Sa. in Neurology and a masters in psychology who has also helped raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for mental health research and support.

No contest. The "fringe" parties are done for a bit it seems and good riddance. Never thought I would ever say that.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I've been a Green supporter for a very long time. I even ran as a candidate for the BC Greens way back. I hate it, but I don't really have a problem with this ruling. The Greens rose to our highest levels of support when we ran a full slate of candidates across the country, and while we have on occasion chosen to not run in a few strategic ridings (don't blame us, it's FPTP), 15 ridings fewer wouldn't be a problem if we were running everywhere else.

The big caveat though is that it's really hard to run a full slate as a small party. The vetting alone is a brutal (and costly) amount of work, and getting 343 candidates mobilised in time for a short-notice election is near impossible for a small party. In other words, when election dates are controlled by the ruling party, elections (and debate rules) will inevitably favour larger parties, diminishing our democracy.

The rules seem reasonable to me, and objectively we didn't meet them, so we shouldn't be included. I just think it's worth noting exactly why we didn't meet them.

Thanks for this. I also support the Green Party and was furious they failed to meet the requirements, but blamed it on pure incompetence. Your reasoning at least explains their failure in a way that makes sense and doesn't require them to be complete crayon eating buffoons.

I still feel like as an up and coming party you have one fucking job: meet the requirements to participate, so their failure still grates on my nerves but not so much now.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Can someone explain what happened with the green party allegedly pulling candidates in strong Conservative ridings? There was an article this morning stating that as the reason for their exclusion from the debate, as they no longer met the criteria for inclusion.

This article doesn't seem to mention or rebut it at all.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This isn't an 'article'. It's a press release from the Green Party, so ofc they're not going to put ALL the info in like they should.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah, I was aware of that, but the proper term eluded me in the moment. Thanks.

I guess if they actually had a leg to stand on, they probably would've included it.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would guess they were trying to focus resources where they were more likely to be impactful.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

That's fine, but then they shouldn't try and misrepresent that they're actually fielding those candidates just to meet the qualifications to be part of the debate.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

Actually no, if the Greens could participate then (and I hate to say this) but the PPC should too. Neither of those parties fulfilled the minimum requirements to participate, unfoetunately .