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Bernie Sanders has been repeatedly uttering the phrase “Israel has a right to defend itself” on his “Fighting Oligarchy” tour with Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, which in the year 2025 can only be interpreted as blatant genocide apologia.

Israel does not have “a right to defend itself” against an occupied population in a giant concentration camp. Under international law it has a right to end the occupation, and that’s it. “Israel has a right to defend itself” is just a slogan people say when they want to justify supplying an ongoing genocide.

Sanders has been mixing his support for Israel in with periodic criticisms of Netanyahu and the Israeli government’s actions in Gaza, always taking care to make his criticisms about the behavior of Israel’s current leadership and not the nature of the racist apartheid state itself.

Sanders is doing this for two reasons. Firstly, he is working to galvanize a big tent inclusive coalition of Democrats in opposition to Trump, and he wants that big tent to include people who think genocide is bad and people who think genocide is fine. He doesn’t want to offend the pro-genocide liberals.

Secondly, Sanders is doing this because he himself is a Zionist. Like other liberal Zionists, Bernie Sanders upholds a vision of an Israel that has never, ever existed: one which remains an ethnostate dominated by Jews, but which conducts itself in a kind and just manner, without constantly murdering and abusing Palestinians.

This iteration of the state of Israel is a fiction. An imaginary fantasyland, like Narnia. Everything about Israel is stacked against the possibility of such a status quo ever emerging, and Israel has always done everything it can to prevent the creation of a Palestinian state. By pretending it is possible to have the Zionist entity and also have peace and justice, liberal Zionists help manufacture public consent for continuing to feed weapons to the genocidal apartheid state of Israel.

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[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Sanders has publicly expressed concern over the humanitarian disaster and indiscriminate bombings in Gaza on numerous occasions and forced through senate votes on ending US arms sales to Israel eight times this month. He's on your side, knucklehead.

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[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (48 children)

Yes, let's fracture the progressive movement even more...

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Genocide support is incompatible with progressiveism.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You are really getting hit hard with hasbara and DNC bots.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Perfection is the enemy of progress. No politician will ever check all boxes. Isn't this group more about progressive progress in domestic issues?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

Your daily reminder that Palestinians aren't human to liberals.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

If you can excuse genocide you should go to /politics.

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