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Systemd moment
systemd moment in the sense that someone not affiliated with systemd used systemd to write a stop job that doesn't terminate quickly? Or that you willingly installed software that brought along a slow stop job with it?
This is like so far away from systemd's fault, idk, it must just be a meme right?
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and this how I deleted the file I edited the entire day: shutdown -h now. No go to bed NOW!
The kernel giveth, the kernel taketh away
Fear will keep them in line
i mean
Great way to damage a power cable.
Old wives' tale. I've only ever yanked power cords out of the wall and I've yet to have one go bad on me.
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Unass my ram.
KILL KILL KILL
Is this even true? I am fairly sure that Linux also has a graceful shutdown process, but I'll admit I haven't looked into it.
yeah we have SIGTERM for graceful and SIGKILL for not so graceful shutting down a process.
In order of decreasing politeness: 1, 2, 15, 9 = HUP, INT, TERM, KILL = "Please stop", "Quit it", "I'm warning you" and "BANG"
Hup is frequently just "hey, reread your configuration files and keep going"
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I feel this meme was created by someone who didn't actually know Windows in depth and recently learned of the kill command. Which by default just asks the process nicely to terminate itself.
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"no loose ends"
Dead processes make no log entries
Personally, I find xkill quite graceful.
Except Windows doesnβt. You can send WM_CLOSE, but that may not actually bail out of the core loop. PostQuitMessage() works better for some apps, but not at all for windowless CONSOLE subsystem processes. Windows also has a lot of special behavior around generating signals in other processes. Itβs a mess.
Like, every time I reboot the reboot UI complains about mysterious, unnamed processes that take suspiciously long to quit.
Having the kernel yank the process out of existence with prejudice is definitely the way to go as apps should be hardened for crashing, anyway.
My work laptop always complains that it can't shut down the "Shutting down" app when it tries to shut down.
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