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The Chrome team says they're not going to pursue Web Integrity but...

it is piloting a new Android WebView Media Integrity API that’s “narrowly scoped, and only targets WebViews embedded in apps.”

They say its because the team "heard your feedback." I'm sure that's true, and I can wildly speculate that all the current anti-trust attention was a factor too.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 289 points 10 months ago (22 children)

K, I'm still not using Google search engine anymore. And once I find a replacement for any other Google services and devices I have, it's out with those as well.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 184 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Both leaving reddit and leaving google s.e. were two things that I thought would be harder than they were.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 61 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Just need to install Linux as your primary OS and your transition to software freedom will be complete.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Doing so on the desktop is easy enough. Getting rid of Android appears to be a much harder challenge, though.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 45 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Android is opensource. You can get phones that support ROMs like LineageOS (would recommend a FairPhone) or /e/ (godawful name, good ROM) for example - you can buy the Murena phone for this.

Linux phones are about 5 years away from mainstream usability, IMO.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

I'm really looking forward to Linux phones. Have been for years. It's sad that Mozilla and Canonicals ventures didn't pan out because both had really fun ideas. Hell I say they had the right ideas, it just wasn't the right time.

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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 42 points 10 months ago (15 children)

Leaving google isn't hard.

Leaving YouTube specifically, however... Well, it's been getting easier as content seems to be less and less frequent or quality.

[–] AnotherOne@feddit.de 26 points 10 months ago

I use piped/newpipe etc. and simply support creators i watch via patreon/direct donations/merch. Less money for shitty ad company more money for creatives.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is something I wrote in another thread earlier but it's relevant here too

A security guy popular in the internet, Ollam, recently left Delta's program because they are changing it to be more pay to play vs miles traveled or something. Delta walked it back but he's sticking to his guns. In his rant, he said something poignant. Something to the effect of "if your significant other raises their hand like they're gonna hit you, but they don't? The time to leave is now." (Video)

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[–] xrtxn@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I replaced gmail with protonmail and everything else with nextcloud. Couldn't go back.

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 123 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're just starting it smaller scale. Within a year it'll be pushed out to everyone broadly.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 28 points 10 months ago

They get the permissions for the little thing that is worded vaguely enough to them funnel people into the larger thing

[–] dirtbiker509@lemm.ee 118 points 10 months ago (16 children)

I'd like to believe that enough of us actually stopped using chrome and switched to Firefox the day they made that announcement that swayed them... But in reality I'm sure it was just the bad press and they're going to try to find a different more sneaky way to do the same shit.

[–] nicknoxx@feddit.uk 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've been using Firefox since it was Mozilla.

[–] SoGrumpy@lemmy.ml 29 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Amateur. I've been using Firefox since Netscape Navigator.

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[–] reflex@kbin.social 113 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Yes, something tells me that they will just switch to attempting to introduce this piecemeal so that fewer people will notice what's going on.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 103 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bet they'll just rename it later, like what they did with FLoC to Ad Topics.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (11 children)

What's funny is how these companies refer to ads as if it's something we should be excited about.

"Good news! We're implementing a new ad delivery feature for your enjoyment! You can now choose what ads to watch, yay!"

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 100 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That usually means they will have something worse at a later time.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

The most likely option is that they will rebrand and we will have to push back against a "completely new, completely different functionality" in a few months.

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[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 99 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

'Heard your feedback' is becoming the death flag of future fuckery these last few years

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They had some of those changes already checked into their code base. It'll be interesting to see how much of that code comes back out.

[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My money is on zero. They'll comment it out and then turn it back on when no one is looking.

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[–] digger@lemmy.ca 73 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 72 points 10 months ago

The Advert People are easily startled, but they'll soon be back, and in greater numbers.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 71 points 10 months ago (4 children)

This is your wake up to stop using Chrome and Chromium based browsers (e.g. Brave, Vivaldi, etc). Switch to Firefox if you haven't already.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

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[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 68 points 10 months ago

Disgusting piece of craps! All should continue to open eyes, against google. They wont stop!

Spread the word to install firefox based browser, use different frontends to block youtube ads in browser, Invidious and use piped youtube apps on android to block youtbe ads: Newpipe

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago

This should never be left up to Chrome. We need antitrust laws.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 58 points 10 months ago (3 children)

We'll see how this shakes out in a year.

Eternal vigilance is the price for a free web.

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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

the web has been getting so shitty lately i've actually gotten into drawing and reading and vinyl and film, which i highly recommend as a backup plan; just the idea of this feels like the atomic bomb for the internet

[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The mainstream web... yes.

The back of the house has never been fucking better. Mastodon changed the game. Why hang out at some asshole's website, hating the website, lacking features and full of advertisements to suck you dry, when you can just come down to the flea market of federated social media and shoot the shit with someone real?

[–] SoonaPaana@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

"Flea market of federated social media" is an awesome description!

[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Moving it to WebView just makes it a Trojan horse for the rest of the web.

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[–] stagen@feddit.dk 47 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The "don't be evil" motto was replaced with "don't be evil, but greedy and posessive is okay"

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And then later edited to

“~~don’t be evil, but~~ greedy and posessive is okay”

[–] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Soon after it changes to it's final form:

“~~don’t be evil, but~~ greed ~~y and posessive is okay~~”

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[–] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't care what Chrome does to fuck every single users possible, provided that it doesn't affect FF.

This integrity thing was one of the worst thing they could've ever come up with that would've definitely affect me.

Fuck them. Fuck with your own users. I ain't one.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (13 children)

That's the problem. They could have made it a requirement for a site to work in Chrome. And since Chrome has such a majority sites would have to comply. Then the other browsers would have to fall in line or just stop working with most websites. Google's monopoly is complete enough that they can dictate how the web works. You need to both care what chrome does and care that other people are still using it or you're just as fucked as they are.

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[–] Isakk86@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"We've decided not to pursue Web Integrity API."

"Oh great! But what's that giant thing under the tarp behind you"

"Oh don't worry..."

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[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 31 points 10 months ago

Floc returned as something else, we will see this come back I am certain

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 10 months ago
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You did it everyone! Good job!

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[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

While this "battle" may be won for now, I've no doubt Google will simply try to implement this in a different way with less backlash.

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