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The Chrome team says they're not going to pursue Web Integrity but...

it is piloting a new Android WebView Media Integrity API that’s “narrowly scoped, and only targets WebViews embedded in apps.”

They say its because the team "heard your feedback." I'm sure that's true, and I can wildly speculate that all the current anti-trust attention was a factor too.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 290 points 1 year ago (8 children)

K, I'm still not using Google search engine anymore. And once I find a replacement for any other Google services and devices I have, it's out with those as well.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 185 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Both leaving reddit and leaving google s.e. were two things that I thought would be harder than they were.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 62 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Just need to install Linux as your primary OS and your transition to software freedom will be complete.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Doing so on the desktop is easy enough. Getting rid of Android appears to be a much harder challenge, though.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 45 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Android is opensource. You can get phones that support ROMs like LineageOS (would recommend a FairPhone) or /e/ (godawful name, good ROM) for example - you can buy the Murena phone for this.

Linux phones are about 5 years away from mainstream usability, IMO.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I'm really looking forward to Linux phones. Have been for years. It's sad that Mozilla and Canonicals ventures didn't pan out because both had really fun ideas. Hell I say they had the right ideas, it just wasn't the right time.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Until banking apps except the use of custom ROMs it will be a major stumbling block to switching to them.

[–] qqq@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I've never had an issue using banking apps from Lineage. I use 3 different pretty mainstream ones

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have 3 banking apps installed right now through Aurora Store (FLOSS access to Google Store). They work fine. The only bank that didn't like my degoogled phone, I dropped.

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[–] mark@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I second the recommendation for Fairphone w/ CalyxOS. Feels just like having a Google Pixel running Android. Just way way more private.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linux phones are about 5 years away from mainstream usability, IMO.

Is this gonna turn into a new meme?

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[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Fingers crossed that linux gets better support and development on phones

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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Leaving google isn't hard.

Leaving YouTube specifically, however... Well, it's been getting easier as content seems to be less and less frequent or quality.

[–] AnotherOne@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago

I use piped/newpipe etc. and simply support creators i watch via patreon/direct donations/merch. Less money for shitty ad company more money for creatives.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maps is the last one to replace. There are so many ads now that I'll tolerate a lower quality alternative.

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's are some OpenStreetMap-based apps that are worth checking out. Some of them are made for specific purposes, while other are for general navigation. I've tried some of them through the time with various success, though I've still haven't found a favorite to stick with for good. But I believe making the switch is definitely possible and probably worth it!

You can install all the mentioned apps through F-Droid:

  • GraphHopper Maps
  • OsmAnd+
  • Organic Maps (hike/bike)
  • Alpi Maps (hike/bike)
  • SeaMapDroid (nautical)

Additionally, use Transportr for public transport navigation almost anywhere in the world, and GMaps WV, a restricted WebView wrapper for accessing the web version of Google Maps. Intended for use when OpenStreetMap isn't enough.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago
[–] danque@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I can definitely recommend maps.me it's a great app with default offline maps. It was a great tool when traveling abroad without internet

[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Leaving YouTube specifically,

https://grayjay.app/

I've been using it. It's actually pretty great.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is true, I still use youtube and I don't see it changing soon since there are no viable alternatives.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Closest I'd say would be a service like Odysee. Can't really say whether their practices are better than yt or not, but I can at least confirm I've found a few channels I don't wanna sub to on yt also have accounts on Odysee. As to whether or not they made those accounts/channels is a different story.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Peer tube but no one actually makes content for it far as I can tell.

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I still worry that leaving Reddit is going to make it tilt to the right. I spent a decade posting there in the hopes that it would nudge people towards sanity.

[–] livus@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it probably already is somewhat, but there comes a point where trying to change the system from within becomes futile and complicit.

I'd rather be out here making a better place.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The right use it and all other social media sites for coordinated disinformation. No matter how much you try to combat it you're going up against people/ideas with deep pockets and a lot of resources meaning your voice is just a drop in the bucket.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Sure, but there are a lot more of us, and we make more sense.

It's important to present people with the contrasting view when they're presented with disinformation. It's natural to believe the first thing you read if it's just a narrative with no dissent.

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

leaving reddit is easy leaving google is pretty damn difficult

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is something I wrote in another thread earlier but it's relevant here too

A security guy popular in the internet, Ollam, recently left Delta's program because they are changing it to be more pay to play vs miles traveled or something. Delta walked it back but he's sticking to his guns. In his rant, he said something poignant. Something to the effect of "if your significant other raises their hand like they're gonna hit you, but they don't? The time to leave is now." (Video)

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[–] xrtxn@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I replaced gmail with protonmail and everything else with nextcloud. Couldn't go back.

[–] Crisis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hosting your own nextcloud I’m guessing?

If so how did you install it?

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Their docker stack is pretty simple to setup

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[–] kzhe@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

After a lot of privacy switching I finally did try NextCloud, but I couldn't get port forwarding to work on my Internet and gave up... For now

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Question: can email from gmail be imported into proton mail?

[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, they even have a walk through on how to do it.

https://proton.me/support/switch-from-gmail-to-proton

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[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly. Off the back of this debacle I switched to Firefox and duckduckgo. Previously I used to use the shit out of incognito because I hated that when I searched for something once that I then get that thing popping up everywhere else in ads etc. Since the switch I no longer get the feeling of being stalked.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

NoScript helps a lot, too. I suppose other extensions also. It’s horrifying how many sites embed Google and Facebook tracking, including ones that really shouldn’t like medical sites and banks.

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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My concern is saving my email and photos before my account is randomly banned one day with no customer service and no recourse. God only knows what data they already harvested from when I used to back up my photos with their service.

[–] Open_Mike@artemis.camp 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just grab a copy using Google Takeout, then after that use Syncrify, FolderSync, Resilio Sync or something else to automatically copy your phone media to your computer.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Definitely the first step is to get more SSDs. I was traveling a lot and barely used a desktop or even a laptop for 6-7 years. I’ll check out those sync systems, thanks.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On the topic of this, what is the best alternative out there? A few years ago I've tried a couple options, out of curiosity, but the search quality was super poor for anything that's not in English, and the accuracy of found content wasn't always there

[–] fiddlestix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I reckon Kagi is the best search engine out there. It's paid though. Second I'd have Qwant followed by DDG.

[–] Paradox@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Best? Kagi. Best free? Probably bing or searx

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

https://ecosia.org as a search engine :) Uses bing in the background (and newly also google), but your data isn't sold (AFAIK).

Or https://duckduckgo.com

If you want opensource there's YaCy

[–] kzhe@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I'm on Kagi but I did the one time payment and am unsure about whether I'll extend. Results are good but 10 dollars a month isn't insignificant (cheap plan is orders of magnitude less than what I need in searches)

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