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[–] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago (2 children)

πŸ’―πŸ΄πŸ”‹(umm, staple)

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct horse battery staple!

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But was it a πŸ’― or was it a βœ…? Damn neither. Let's try with πŸ‘...

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jeez, you're right. We got pens, pencils, stock charts, even those folders with the colored label tabs, but no stapler, the most basic of office equipment.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

When it's added, I expect most implementations will make it red.

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[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 97 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Good luck logging in a Smart TV.

[–] MoogleMaestro@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Security Experts probably don't log into smart tvs all that often. Just a guess.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sorta how car designers never have to actually fix cars.

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[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Logging in a smart tv? Lol!

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Terrible idea, good luck logging in on desktop.

[–] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You know there's someone somewhere who would answer you with, "what's a desktop?"

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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (11 children)

For Windows 10/11, its win+; to open the emote window.

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[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Wait, you can't type emoji on your desktop? I feel sorry for you. πŸ₯Ί

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Oh for fuck's sake, just turn on 2FA

[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just use a password manager, goddamn.

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[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago (9 children)

xkcd still has the best approach to this; four random common words

[–] vamputer@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I like doing entire phrases with some rhymes thrown in. Makes it easier to remember them.

"BonyTonyMoansHe'sOnlyGrownLonely" has a shitload of characters, and a full sentence (even a nonsensical one like that) is more memorable to me than a random handful of disparate words.

The more ridiculous, the better. (And, naturally, don't forget your numbers and symbols)

EDIT: Actually, no idea why I made it all one group of words. So long as spaces are in the password's character space (and they very well should be if friggin' emojis are), there's nothing stopping you from doing an entire, punctuated sentence- other than that we've been conditioned not to think of a password that way.

"Skinny Kenny's friend, Mini Ben, has 20 chins." That should be a fully-acceptable password with 46 characters (48 if you add the quotes), capital letters, numbers, and special characters.

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[–] lupec@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I love it, Bitwarden has supported generating passphrase style passwords for a while and it's basically that. It's my go-to these days.

[–] ammonium@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Four words is too low these days to protect against gpu bruteforcing

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[–] spark947@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago

Until you get to a prompt that doesn't support unicode.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd rather staple my forehead to a telephone pole before I ever think about using an emoji in a password. Those things are abominations!

[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Out of curiosity, what makes you say so?

Edit: Oh. Did a "Wooosh" happen to me right now? Are you being ironic and referring to the XKCD thing about how to make a secure password using words in phrases?

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I think OP is conflating the use of emojis in passwords with the use of emojis by the general public.

Yes, it's annoying to read stuff like "Hi πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒ I am Bob β™₯️β™₯️β™₯️😎😎😎😎," but that doesn't mean that using them in passwords is a bad idea.

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sounds great where it works but I'm sure most systems would reject an emoji or make you type out some overly complex password in addition to your emoji.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly you'd be surprised how many places it just works magically. I was surprised to find that Office365 users could use emojis in names for Microsoft Teams which had no problem syncing those accounts back to an on-prem Active Directory. You can use emojis to name a whole SQL database, let alone users/passwords on it.

I keep wondering if I need to figure out how to turn that off but it hasn't caused any problems. It's definitely sketchy looking though when you see a bunch of normal usernames and then suddenly one is just ten snowman emojis in a row.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago

It's all just Unicode so in theory a password system shouldn't think that emoji or any more interesting than any other character. To a computer the letter B and the emoji ✈️ equivalent in that they're both just normal characters that one can type.

Sort of, emoji are usually treated as two or more normal characters so ✈️ might be equivalent to BB. But the basic point is the same.

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[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What's up with all the hate for emojis lmao

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

People who use them tend to spam the hell out of them. Like, 8 of the same emoji. And they use them every other sentence. It's obnoxious, you only need one or two to get the point across.

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ—ΏπŸ—ΏπŸ—ΏπŸ—ΏπŸ—ΏπŸ—ΏπŸ—ΏπŸš£πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯ sigma

the emojis and text above are a part of the reason

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[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 13 points 1 year ago

Back in my day we only had 95 printable characters, and that's the way we liked it! /s

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Antisocial people.

It was the same on Reddit. All of the people who despised emojis were often posting in really cringe and incel related subs.

My use of emojis sky rocketed after I started dating. They are fun and convey emotion really well.

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[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago
[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Completely useless from many sources where I have to rely on a keyboard for entering passwords.

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[–] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

As a software developer who has worked with a lot of symbols and emoji... PLEASE DON'T DO THIS.

Software doesn't all handle these symbols the same way, and without tech knowledge (or even with) , it's very possible to not be able to log in easily. I'm kinda drunk rn, but I'll try to explain as simply as I can...

For example... skintone emojis are actually two characters, a face and a skin tone modifier. I think those ones are always two characters but some of these "multi-char" characters can be normalized into a single character. But not everyone handles this the same way. For example, Safari might normalize the emoji, but Firefox might treat it as two separate characters... And this would probably make your password not match. But basically... text has lots of edge cases; I'd advise to use normal passwords please (also maybe a password manager)

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[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can you write any unicode cahracter? Gotta make passwords in cuneiform

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

(πŸ‘ ΝœΚ–πŸ‘) π“‚Ί

-The most secure password

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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.net 12 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Last week or two I've been learning more about passkeys, and it makes threads like this seem ridiculously out of date. Given the choice between emojis and passwords and hard crypto, I'll take the crypto.

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[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (15 children)
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[–] Arfman@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Long time ago a friend of mine used a set of key press to generate a smiley face to put in his bios which ended up in a situation where he was not able to type in the same smiley face into the password prompt. I had to teach him to reset his bios battery to get back into the bios.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Grab a sentence you know well.

Pick just the first letter of each word.

It will look like it's random - for example "I like my lemmy only with beans and bacon" becomes "ilmlowbab" - and it comes from a far vaster possibility space (ever possible sentence and it need not even make sense) than that of "words in the English language and derived words" so it's a lot harder to try to crack with a dictionary attack.

Also it works in everything that takes ASCII charactes (i.e. everything but numeric only pin codes).

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