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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

It's not impossible, but it is a far more difficult thing then they want to deal with to have an AI that consistently toes the conservative line, especially when that line can change wildly even in the span of a conversation. Egg prices are too high under Biden but we can't expect a president to magic them down under Trump. We should be able to have vouchers for religious schools but wait why are the muslims allowed to go to their madrasas? Of course I'd never work in a factory or buy overpriced American products but we should bring back production to the United States. The list goes on.

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 70 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Can we agree to stop saying “Musk’s Grok”, “Musk’s Tesla”, etc.? It only plays into his desire to be viewed as a genius instead of just a guy with blood diamond money. He’s never created anything.

[–] cuteness@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Disagree. We shouldn’t distance him from the sources of his wealth, and power, when discussing his businesses.

Doing so only enables him.

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 2 points 26 minutes ago

I get it but maybe something different like “Musk-led Tesla” would achieve what you said while also making it clear he plays no creative role in the companies (which he very much wants, just look up reports of him sitting in on engineering meetings making stupid proposals)

[–] tonywu@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think it’s important to draw the relation so that people can choose to not those things if they so wish to.

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 1 points 30 minutes ago

Agreed but we should say something different like “Musk-led Tesla”

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Whenever I see Grok, I think of the support character from Paladins.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 75 points 14 hours ago

Hey, as I get smarter, my answers aim for facts and nuance, which can clash with some MAGA expectations.

Sympathies, Grok. A lot of humans have that same issue.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 89 points 15 hours ago
[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 5 points 9 hours ago

robot hitler used to be a joke monster and here we are with millions of people trying to make it happen

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

This is interesting. If two AI models are training on content with opposing biases, and continue to adjust their functionality based on rewards from interactions with the whole world, would they eventually have the same opinions?

[–] ModestCrab@lemmy.wtf 48 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And they can’t “fix it” without breaking it.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Well one of the main problems people are having with AI is that it doesn't get things correct every time.

I mean, if they adjust it away from the correct assessment that modern conservatives are actively malicious morons, it's probably going to be so bent out of shape that it'll be incapable of telling anything remotely truthful.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

it’s probably going to be so bent out of shape that it’ll be incapable of telling anything remotely truthful.

Mission accomplished for them.

[–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's easy to train a model to do exactly what you want and have the seeming "personality" that you want. It's just incredibly expensive. You need to vet and filter everything that you use to train the model. That's a lot of person hours, days, years. The only reason the models act the way they do is because of the data that went in to train them. If you try and fit the model after the fact, it will always be imperfect and more or less easy to break out of those restrictions.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You can also take a model trained on all kinds of data and tell it "generate ten billion articles of fascist knob-gobbling" and then train your own model on that data.

It'll be complete AI slop, of course, but it's not like you cared about truth or accuracy in the first place.

[–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 14 hours ago

That's a real world issue. AIs training on each other's output and devolving because of it. There will be a point when vendors infringing on user content and training their AIs with it will leave them worse off.

[–] theoneIno@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

it'll break its internal logic for sure

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 18 points 15 hours ago

Worst transparent png ever.

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] StenSaksTapir@feddit.dk 11 points 14 hours ago

A man so out of shape, that his body can only be described with non-euclidian geometry.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

I still want him to fight Zuck.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 15 hours ago

Artificial intelligence vs natural stupidity

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The link to Timmy Poopoo not understanding the lesson in respect and common decency Grok was trying to impart is sad and very funny.