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Sorry, another news from this asshole, but this is too much assholery to don't be shared

Despite him being a shitty boss that fired employees that criticized him on twitter, he promised an "unlimited" legal defense fund to fight against employers that fired employees because of something they wrote on Twitter.

Under his tweet a lot of "verified" (=right wing) accounts plauded this and asked to fight employers who fired employees for having written something homophobic

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[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They aren't 'Tweets' anymore. They are Xcretes.

[–] Michal@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 year ago

Except when they're used in court as evidence, then they're called "xzibits"

[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 5 points 1 year ago
[–] smellythief@beehaw.org 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fired employees that criticized him on twitter

I hope one of those employees sues him. And asks him publicly to pay their legal fees.

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

I am surprised that nobody has sued the former president for those paying out when he said the same thing.

[–] Yepthatsme@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago

He’s fishing for fascists.

[–] CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi 30 points 1 year ago

Dude was forced to buy Twitter because he couldn't stop his big mouth. Seems he hasn't learned. Lmao.

[–] Karlos_Cantana@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We make our employees sign a form when they're hired stating that they will not mention our company or any of its employees on social media in a negative way. It's standard practice. Any company big enough to have its own lawyer(s), they will advise them to do that because it can help prevent serious legal Issues.

[–] prole@beehaw.org 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We make our employees sign a form when they're hired stating that they will not mention our company or any of its employees on social media in a negative way. It's standard practice

The NLRB ruled that non-disparagement clauses are not enforceable

https://www.axios.com/2023/03/27/labor-board-says-non-disparagement-clauses-are-unlawful

It's a clear violation of the first amendment... Also, referring to the company you work for as "we" while talking about firing another employee is cringe as fuck.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah idk man, I would not call it "a clear violation" based on your link. This is basically the NLRB's opinion and they expect to be challenged on it.

Also I think we need to delineate those folks who are genuinely facing retaliation for discuss working conditions, and those who want Elon to help them sue because they got fired for saying the N slur on Twitter or other troll bullshit

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if I hadn't agreed to this it would be a no brainer. If you found your friend talking shit about you they wouldn't be your friend anymore, why would an employer react any different?

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't know what kind of friends you have, but your employer is not your friend, nor your family.
They are there to exploit your labour for profit, and will only ever defend themselves, never you.

(this isn't to say I agree with musk or anything, fuck him and anything he does, and fuck the bigots, they deserve consequences to their actions, but the idea that anyone would defend their boss like they would defend a friend makes me sad and angry and massively frustrated. Those contracts Karlos mentioned are 100% ass covering by a company that is more concerned with its reputation than it is with its employees, which when you consider we live in capitalism is to be expected, but it still seems to escape so so many people - 99% of employers don't give two shits about you, including, and maybe especially, those who are really good at convincing you that they value "loyalty")

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I didn't say I think I'm friends with my company but to expect consequences when you get caught talking shit.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

expect consequences when you get caught talking shit.

Sure, to a point.
Ever wonder why they never fire the bigot before they go public? The bigots I've met in life have really sucked at keeping their mask on, do you really think their employers (and fellow employees) were oblivious? Or was it only when there was publicity involved and the company feared for their own reputation, rather than the safety of their other employees, that they do something about it?
Yet if you tweet "my boss sucks", it probably won't go viral or get any publicity, but your employer can just as easily fire you for "talking shit" that literally didn't cause harm to anyone.

You specified:

If you found your friend talking shit about you

Meaning if the company found you talking shit about it, and the fact that you think your employer can and should have that level of control over your thoughts and actions is actually terrifying.

[–] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

If I find out my company is a piece of shit I'm leaving, why shouldn't they be allowed to end the arrangement?

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

im just a bystander to this conversation but it really seems like you saw all those words in that comment and treated them like a fart in the wind, and then just wrote whatever you felt like.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If I find out my company is a piece of shit I'm leaving

that's a really privileged position to be in that billions of others don't have

(don't feel the need to add any more, @viq has it more than covered! 👍)

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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If one of my coworkers is making up shit on social media because they are angry about being expected to do their job, and as a result we lose contacts and have to fire a bunch of people, yeah I think that person should 100% get fired. Hyperbole cuts both ways.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hyperbole cuts both ways.

you're the only one talking about people making up shit
also your language (" because they are angry about being expected to do their job") gives away your agenda instantly and shows just how out of touch and/or brainwashed by corporate media you are.

Talk about bad faith lmfao...

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I said it was hyperbole. What part of that comparison are you missing?

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[–] lasagna@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Does that extend to employer review websites like GlassDoor?

[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ive defended these musk posts in the past, but sorry... This story has nothing at all to do with technology.

[–] terny@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Be liberal with your filters. I for one, am now filtering this, I'm tired of musk showing up in my feed.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

Does Trump's "Will be wild!" tweet count? He got impeached and now has 4 felony counts in relation to that one... I'm sure he'd LOVE to stick someone else with the bill for it...

[–] YMS@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

What will people do? Sue him to provide the promised legal funds they need to sue their employers?

[–] binaryphile@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Musk fighting at-will employment now. How socialist of him. /s

[–] totallynotfbi@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, this has nothing to do with technology. It's a useless article anyway, because it doesn't seem to actually say what his tweet said...

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[–] Hyggyldy@sffa.community 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Lauded or applauded. Plauded is wordn't.

Edit: I am rightn't.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah ok it was a similar word translated from my language

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[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not sure how this relate to "Technology".

[–] ram@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Under his tweet a lot of “verified” (=right wing) accounts plauded this and asked to fight employers who fired employees for having written something homophobic

Any examples of that?

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