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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29414662

A massive aviation industry clearinghouse that processes data for twelve billion passenger flights per year is selling that information to the Trump administration amid the White House’s new immigration crackdown, according to documents reviewed by the Lever.

The data — including “full flight itineraries, passenger name records, and financial details, which are otherwise difficult or impossible to obtain” for past and future flights — is fed into a secretive government intelligence operation called the Travel Intelligence Program and provided to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies, records reveal.

Details of this program were outlined in procurement documents released Wednesday by ICE, which is a division of the Department of Homeland Security.

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 45 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

dO yoU hAVe sOMeTHinG tO hIDe?

That's why we need strong fucking privacy laws.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Y'all already have the one constitutional right that'll solve this

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I am not American. But given that I have flown on at least one of those airlines. I didn't normally fly to the US, but it did happen. Meaning now ICE has my info on those.

The laws need to be updated to be as hard, if not harder, on private companies. And absolutely no 'agree to this or you don't get to use our product' bullshit.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Yes, as the Trump admin clearly proves, they follow the law to the letter.

/s

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

The privacy laws don't apply to private companies, and that is the problem. When many privacy rights were written they were originally intended entirely for governments as private individuals and companies generally didn't have the ability to do much in those days. But my god have things changed.

[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 months ago

I don't like that.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago

United Empire of America.

[–] blakcod@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago

Tell me something we didn’t already know. Fuck I could live in the remote… fuck it you can’t be hidden or private anymore

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Except if you are rich, traveling in business class or private jet.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I noticed when you go through security now, they scan your face witg 2 cameras instead of 1. Is that related? Why do they do that?

[–] TinyShonk@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it helps with getting a 3d scan

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

That's what I'm thinking

[–] Corduroy_Pillows_Making_Headlines@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I didn't notice that, but I DO know you can opt out of those scans. I do it every time. I was told by one security agent that they don't store the images, but that doesn't mean they won't do so in the future! Also, during their beta, biometric data of many passengers was exposed through a breach.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What do you tell them when you opt out?

[–] Corduroy_Pillows_Making_Headlines@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I say, (while out of range of the camera), "I'd like to opt out of the biometric scan, please." I also opt out my kid if they're with me.

I rarely get a blink. (There are signs saying you're allowed to opt out.) Though I wonder if/how that will change with RealID! I didn't get one because as of right now you can still use your passport, but I know they want everyone to have one.

ETA I have a whole section on this in the free book DISENGAGE: Opting Out—and Finding New Options—to Reclaim Your Life from Spammers, Scammers, Intrusive Marketers and Big Tech.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Mugshot? Getting you up front and in profile?

I see from the company's privacy page that people in "protected" states can have their data removed, but I assume that's only data used for advertising/marketing...not data collected/shared for the purpose of tossing you out of the country. Anyone know if there's a way to exclude yourself from this database? (I doubt it since they're saying it's for legal purposes, but you never know.)

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yet another reason not to travel.

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Maybe over the Atlantic.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Literally every single online company is giving your data to law enforcement, often including real-time access.

This is the thing that Snowden leaked.

Facebook, Gmail, your cellular provider, Amazon, Credit Card companies, your bank, etc. They're all systems that law enforcement intelligence can access, probably without a subpoena (a business can choose to give up business records since they own them, you don't own 'your data').

If you're doing something online, or on your phone, you should pretend that there's a law enforcement officer sitting and reading over your shoulder because they effectively are. If they ever has cause to look at you they'll pull the history of your account (possibly limited to 30 days back but there's no guarantee of this) and see everything you've ever written and posted included things that you deleted.

If you did anything illegal they can use this information to start a new investigation, in addition to whatever investigation that led them to your account. This can allow them access to even more accounts.

So, if you're using any commercial service that holds your data, you should assume that a law enforcement officer is combing through your information and trying to find something to charge you with.

You should not use commercial services if you're in the US. I know I'm preaching to the choir in this community, but sometimes people need to see it written in black and white.