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[–] jawide626@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Unintentional but dangerous and looks painful. Red card all day these days.

[–] PracticalDrawing@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t understand how there is an argument against this red card

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[–] Sam101294@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I cousin called complaining saying his team got a farcical red card. Watching this, how does he even complain, Rashford just no awareness where feets and ankles are

[–] wodmad@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Is everyone posting here like ten years old or just happen to have short memories?

The suggestion that this is somehow a new approach by refs is way off the mark. As a refresher, here's Ronaldinho's red card in the Quarter Final of the 2002 World Cup against England (which was less dangerous than Rashford's tackle here- Ronaldinho scrapes the shin of his opponent whereas Rashford could easily have broken his opponent's leg) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GckBqFP120s

By the way, I think Rashford is one of the true good guys in the game. Feel genuinely sad that he's going to now have a torrent of abuse from knuckle draggers who have the mental maturity of a five year old on a sugar rush.

[–] singabro@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Warning: /r/soccer thread about Rashford. Studs on leg snapping stamp on player's shin, "twasnt never a foul that". Anything this guy does is excused.

[–] novocast@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Ouch. Looks painful in freeze frame.

[–] the_hound_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Obviously Rashford doesn't intend to catch him like that, but he does, and I think red is the correct decision. Being unlucky does not mean the decision was unfair.

[–] hammer_of_grabthar@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think the current application of rules is very fucked up in that they judge a player by the outcome, not their intent, nor even a "reasonably foreseeable consequence" of their action.

Havertz was a red card all day long for me, it's an incredibly dangerous, out of control tackle, off the ground, plenty of force, that's going to break someone's leg but he gets lucky and doesn't make much contact, so they give a yellow, even though it's blatantly dangerous. Rashford tries to shield the ball and a leg appears under him and it's a red. It's not some outrageously dangerous action, if he doesn't make contact, and it's not even a foul, whereas the Havertz one should be a red regardless of contact, IMO.

We now punish dangerous tackles and unfortunate accidents identically. It was a red card in 2023, but it shouldn't be, IMO.

Disclaimer: I don't have a hard on for punishing Havertz in particular, it was just the most recent "dangerous tackle" let off that stuck in my head

[–] Vincedicola@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

That is a fucking joke of a red card

[–] TheNewGuy13@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

not sure why this is controversial. any studs up challenge is an automatic red. reminds me of that Ibrahimovic Red vs i think Manu U when he was on PSG in a RO16 game.

im sure there are loads of others like this given a red. intent doesn't matter, just the outcome, which is always an injured player.

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[–] KungFuFlames@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Oh hell nah. That's even worse in slow motion.

[–] nick2473got@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Tbh it's a clear red to me. I get it's not intentional and he's trying to shield the ball but he absolutely does not need to over-extend his leg to that extent, it's very reckless and could easily have broken the other guy's leg. You need to have better spatial awareness and control your leg extension.

It was totally possible to shield the ball without putting his studs on the other guy's ankle.

[–] PocketFullOfRondos@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Ten hag is going to blame so many things in the presser

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[–] tTaStYy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He remembered Bruno earning a penalty for United by stamping Konsa the same way a few seasons ago.

[–] Hdizz111@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

it looks terrible but there's no way he meant that it's never a red card in a million years

[–] Chapea12@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It looks really ugly, but not sure I’d give that a red. Doesn’t appear to lunge aggressively or be in an unnatural position. Harsh call

[–] TeamUlovetohate@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

karma for going after goldbridge

[–] ASeatedLion@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Not a man u fan - was this on field or reviewed? Because its clear he wasn't even looking at the player so it's not intentional. He has possession of the ball too. Yes it's bad but it seems harsh a straight red.

[–] Artharas@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Very harsh red that, obviously looks terrible but he's clearly trying to shield the ball and gets unlucky to stamp the player. Red card can be justified if you say he's not in control but I just feel he is but got unlucky. I'd prefer these kinds of fouls to just be a yellow.

[–] DangerouslyCheesey@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It’s peak delusion to think this isn’t a red. He lifts his foot and stamps down on the other players ankle, it doesn’t matter if he intended it or not. If Curtis Jones tackle was a red, then this is too.

[–] no_instructions@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

excuse me WTF

[–] volanger@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Personally I think red is a bit harsh here, yellow for sure, but that rashford is in possession and doesn't appear to see the other player I think saves him. Honestly though I could see it teetering red. Really unfortunate accident though, hence why I think rashford shouldn't have been given red.

[–] lucas_glanville@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What’s Rashford meant to do here? We can’t be giving red for this, it’s a nasty accident that’s all

[–] Glum_Document_9516@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I would normally feel sympathy but because of Gary Neville’s comments I will just say HOLD

[–] RockShockinCock@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Ridiculous decision.

[–] LordLychee@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It’s a lack of awareness from Rashford. He doesn’t have the space or time to shield as wide of a space as he’s attempting to. Unfortunate because he clearly doesn’t mean to tackle, but he’s gotta be more careful

[–] Ok_Pineapple466@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If that’s not a red then Cristian Romero didn’t deserve a red

As a Man U hater, that's a red

[–] jeaann@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Intentional or accidental, doesn't matter. Clear red card. Correct decision.

[–] jseng27@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Fucking disgrace

[–] New-Honeydew-8206@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Leg breaker.. straight to jail

[–] Jor94@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Really don't get these red cards for accidental contact when they let elbows and off the ball incidents go unpunished.

[–] kentuckyfriedbuddha@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This was a red. The law is pretty clear on endangering another player. Intent, shielding the ball, whatever other crock pot conspiracy theory is meaningless.

[–] roofilopolis@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I’m not loving this. Seems like there’s been 4 or 5 reds this year because of where players are ending up with no intention to rather than because of the actual tackle.

[–] trickshotdick@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

sign a terrible player who's only role is to run around and slide their foot under opponents jumping for headers. Big brain strategy

[–] RealLilKymchii@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Dirty ankle breaking scumbag

[–] neandertales@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Need to stamp out those, dangerously overly protecting the ball, so i'm not really complaining.

[–] InnocentPossum@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like these "Orange" card situations should have a rule where the Player is subbed but the team still gets to keep 11 men on the pitch. A red card is too harsh (Though the correct call within the rules) but a yellow is not enough as it was still dangerous play, whether intentional or not.

Weekly reminder that Rashford looks like Alistair Overeem when he is off roids.

[–] pacoLL3@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dislike ManU but i absolutely despise red card decisions like these.

Everyone and their mother knows this was utterly unintentional.

Is this really what a red card should be about? Technicalities?

For me it should be the exact opposite: A red is when people deliberatly try to injure, or provoke injuries.

None of that happened here.

And this is comming from a guy liking Kopenhagen, Liverpool and City.

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[–] lucas_glanville@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s so unlucky. I don’t think it should be a red, it’s just an unfortunate accident. Not reckless or dangerous imo

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