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It’s not like Silver didn’t embrace it. He wanted people to tweet about the NBA more than he wanted them to watch it. Therefore, hot takes became more important.

You know the NFL has free to watch games for local games start there. I'm sick of these owners being jealous of the NFL while ignoring one of the biggest reasons. No barrier to entry

If you want good analysis, stop hiring no talent gas bags like Glenn Rivers and Mark Jackson. There have to be other people in the Mike Fratello and Hubie Brown mold who want to help teach the game. Just trotting out ex players isn't going to work anymore.

It'd also like to tell Dilver to be careful what he wishes for. There are some pretty horrible NFL media people. Mark Schlereith nearly made me claw out my eyes during Eagles-Commies 2 weeks ago

To all my r/NFL + r/NBA dual citizens, remember during the late stage Kaepernick years when this sub was relentlessly trying to shit on the NFL and kept saying the NFL was dying and the NBA was gonna overtake it in a few years? Lol

Rip Tnt boys

Adam Silver needs Taylor Swift at NBA games

Not with a game every other night and a score every twenty seconds.

Part of what makes the NFL feel so epic is the difficulty of even scoring and of course the week long pining to see the next game, analyzing every detail of the last game and all the potential of the next.

The NBA is dominated by superstars and constant talk about which player will help which team win. It's still the superteam era. I don't think coaches have an enormous effect on the day to day runnings of a team. The sports share very little in common. Maybe I'm missing something in the analysis?

Then stop confusing people by dumbing down the game with silly gimmicks to sell it! The NBA doesn't need help selling the sport. It has sold itself since its inception.

Silver is right. Also I highly recommend everyone on here listen to that Old man and the 3 pod interview he did. Honestly pretty safe interview but still incredibly insightful.

Kobe started the detail series because he didn’t like the way basketball was being covered by the media.

This is a very simple goal but the NBA and the NBA media is too dumb to understand.

NFL does a really good job of giving even media attention to all 32 teams regardless of market size and talent.

NBA and the media spends more than half the time giving Lakers and Knicks media attention even when they were terrible. The media only want to engage with 6-7 max per season.

This leaves fans of small market teams completely disengaged.

Way too many games to generate that same level of hype and demand. You can’t easily watch a fucking basketball game anywhere the media rights are dumb af.

He’s right. Watch the shit ESPN NBA today show then watch NFL Live. One is a clown show for social media clicks and casted characters to try and copy the tnt model. The other celebrates the game and gives real analysis

I think this is a bad idea, instead of chasing what you are not, you need to emphasize what you are.

We don’t need constant PhD level analysis of every defensive scheme (although I’d love that somewhere) but it’s the league’s job to educate fans on the basics of the game. I don’t think I’ve ever watched a game where an announcer actually explained what a pick and roll is, or why a team would go zone vs man. What is help defense? What does it mean to fight over/under a screen or to switch everything? Laying the seeds for more nuanced conversation about the game will only draw more fans in, improve the overall discourse, and then people who want to learn more can always go find more advanced stuff.

Silver wants nfl type coverage and European soccer type competitions. Dude is always just trying to copy other leagues 😂

The NBA has 81 games, the NFL has 17. Each NFL game is magnitudes more consequential than an average NBA game. It only makes sense that media don't pay attention to individual games on the same level. If Silver wants more coverage, reduce the amount of games and make them more valuable. Doing a mid-season tournament isn't going to do that.

I feel like part of the problem is that the games happen too often and too close to each other

The nfl is a handful of games a week and there's days without football and it gives the media time to FIND narratives and break down plays, and explain what happened, week to week. The nba you got a 1 or 2 day turnaround and by then the next game is coming so the previous one doesn't even matter or register in people's minds. What happened Monday may not happen Wednesday, or Friday. It's a long season where play in October is not the same as Decmeber, not he same at the All Star Break, etc. I think it's more difficult to keep people engaged and care for 82 games. Narratives and players should normally be driving those ratings IMO.

If they wanted the finals to be a bigger spectacle they should have a week off between Conference Finals to let the media dissect and hype up the matchups. There's no other championships in May/June other than Hockey.

ESPN: The Lakers are off today, but I heard that LeBron visited Chik-Fil-A before boarding the plane for Houston.

I mean, that’s cuz nba coaches are jokes. Players routinely get them fired. That’s not the case in the NFL.

Ring culture ruined nba analyses thats all the analyst talk about. Even inside the nab it always comes down to rings. This player needs to leave this small town team to go win. Also need to move away from Stephen A smith, skip, Shannon type analysis of basketball

NFL commentary is great.

What I’ve really come to love over the past few seasons is the ManningCast on MNF. They honestly explain stuff from a perspective you don’t hear a lot. Hearing them sometimes call plays before they happen is incredible

Ain't happening. Bball is just too fast to really analyse complex offenses real time. The reason it works in NFL is because football is much slower game with stoppages after every play, so you naturally have time to break shit down. Color commentators would need to snort like a pound of cocaine before every game to be able to talk at Mach3 speed.

Pay thinking basketball the money they deserve and in a bigger role

the league is too damn soft

All the best basketball analysis happens on YouTube and gets posted to team specific subreddits. I know this type of analysis isn’t easy to produce as a game is happening, but if YouTubers can get these videos out in a day or two why can big media companies do the same?

Well, once nba players play as often as nfl players do as far as caring about every game, then that’s what when it will be covered differently

But since we can’t get past the entry level, “are they playing every game and do they care”, then that’s where we are at

They are all talented, who cares more, is unfortunately the difference too often.

Player empowerment went too far in the nba and that’s why they get paid and don’t play, nfl players are playing for security every year, but in the nba it’s try only during a contract year

This is all on the players, they are getting paid based off yesterdays players generating the leagues popularity

So the dream team from 1992 is still paying dividends, and by the time the nba is on a real decline, it will be too late bc the players have lost touch with what got them the billions

Play the game

So he wants no one outside of America care about the league?

I just watched Richard Jefferson and Kendrick Perkins on the pregame before this Knicks Spurs game and I would've learned more about basketball by hitting myself in the balls with a cinder block for half an hour.

Iv been more and more disappointed with the coverage over the years. The big thing I have noticed as a whole that most games rather than showing the 2-4 second foul and saying what the foul is they will show a highlight. While I understand the game this difference makes it much more difficult to understand for new viewers. Show highlights before and after commercial breaks like back in the day. Also I'm tired of commentators getting board towards the end of a game talking about the food they are eating or the movies they watched. If you can't talk about ball give the job to someone who loves the game and will explain and capture what is going on for all viewers

Average CFB analyst: “here’s my weekly updated power rankings for all 132 division I teams.”

Average NFL analyst: “after watching every snap of Brock Purdy multiple times, I’ve decided that his statistical success isn’t just a product of Mike Shannahan’s play calling.”

Average NBA analyst: “I’ve literally never seen the league’s two-time MVP play basketball before I just voted for him bc of his stats.”

Obsessive?

Are there any outlets covering the NBA in the way the NFL is now?

Look, I watch tons more NBA than NFL, but you can't expect the same kind of analysis because basketball is a much simpler game. In football, the field is bigger, the teams are larger, the positions are much more specialized, the scenarios are much more varied, the scoring is more complex, deception is more common -- there's room for tactics and complex playmaking.

In basketball, you can win games because you have two amazing iso players. That doesn't make the NBA any less amazing or fun. It's its own thing, and there's no need to compare it to football.

Somewhere, the NBA is building its own Pat McAfee, and a finger on a monkey’s paw is curling.

There's almost nothing you can do to make me care about basketball, baseball, or hockey before the playoffs unless you turn it into a 40 game max season with only six playoff teams.

Get games on Network TV from 11am(Central) to 10pm(Central) a single Sunday and/or Saturday then 1 or 2 games on Network TV Monday to Thursday then you can get it.

This guy is a fool

I agree with what he said, but it’s just going to be difficult to do that. The NFL’s advantage is the coverage throughout the week leading up to all of the games and of course only 17 games. The NBA has games every night, and they play 82. To get people interested in the NBA during the NFL season (if you’re also a football fan) is damn near impossible.

I’m a Jags fan and I won’t even pay attention to the Cavs until Christmas time. That’s when my NBA season starts. Christmas Day.

He’s about to expose a lot of stupid coaches

NFL announcers seem like they actually enjoy the sport. So many basketball commentators talk about players and coaches and not the game itself.

So celebrity chasing and a thousand commercials? This league will fucking suck

Well, he achieved it. Refs are a joke.

How can you provide analysis when todays NBA is just trash. Do you remember when John Stockton would take a charge from a large guy coming at the basket? How about when Kobe had that stare in his eyes at the end of the game? Jordan when he had the killer instinct to finish a game? Rodman diving for a ball and out rebounding bigger men? Duncan was mister consistency ? Big shot Rob Horry? Now, todays NBA ….Anthony Davis can’t stay healthy and is soft, Players rarely take charges??? Here is how the majority of the commentary would go. He dribbles down the floor and shoots a three,,, missed and rebounded by defense ……dribble down the floor for a pull up 3 - missed it….rebound ….oases to the open player another 3 … you get my point

Pretty much. You never really hear about small markets much in the NFL either. NFL media does a lot better about keeping fans of all teams engaged.

Leaguepass is so garbage. I spent money last year to watch some games but couldn't because it's behind other paywalls when Leaguepass should give you access. So last year I couldn't really watch any games.

This year, Spectrumnet+ has that new $20 per month to watch the Lakers play. They're getting their asses beat by the Rockets right now, but I can't watch it to support a team I love because technical difficulties. Technical difficulties keep happening to this product so I'm paying $20 to watch a few games when I should be getting all the Lakers games.

If I didn't share a bond with my family about Basketball, I wouldn't even bother trying to watch games. The NBA is always going to be inferior to other products until it just gets a viable product to people to just be able to watch games. I'm a guy who's willing to shell out money and I still can't even watch any games.

To reiterate, leaguepass is garbage water bathed in sewer scum. It's a terrible product and the NBA is so moronic it can't even fix a product they've had for years and all they can do is say, "We want to be like the NFL."

Edit: It's been a few minutes of deep breathing and I still hate leaguepass. I hope Adam Silver stars in the Donkey Show next to the Donkey because he sucks.

Edit 2: You know what, pirating offers better streaming options. I'm just going to pirate because Luffy > NBA.

Interesting theory but I don’t think commentary would bring in the casual sports fan like the NFL does

Bread & Circus. Always has been

Gonna need better people doing the commentary then. There's a severe lack of strategy and execution analysis in games. But also the game is so fast paced that there's not a lot of time to break stuff down. Football gives you like 30 seconds to talk about the last play while you wait for them to set up and start the next play. Plus all the pauses when the refs are explaining the flags and penalties.