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[–] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This seems like a series a mishaps. If it crushed him, what would it have done to a box of peppers? It says he was inspecting sensors. Was something already going on? If so, maybe protocol needed to be different. What a tragedy.

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

You are never supposed to be this close to a non collaborative robot during operation. Never ever. There are a ton of safety standards around deadmanning operations if someone breaches the Arms workspace. At least here in the US they are enforced through OSHA.

If this keeps happening in South Korea, I would guess it is an issue with however their safety operations are enforced. But you should never even get close to a robot like this while it is running without a light wall or something ready to trip. Even then, most places have the cells fenced off.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Without knowing the setup, it's all guesswork- But if I had to guess, the program the robot ran through would be a series of movements that results in a box that is this size and this shape in this position being moved perfectly well to this particular spot.

Humans are not that size, that shape, or in that position.

I've not worked industrial in Asia, but where I have worked there has been stringent protocols around locking out machinery that has the potential to kill. For someone to enter a hazardous area, they have to remove any potential source of energy (eg, disconnecting power to motors, draining hydraulic pressure, lowering suspended loads, etc) and use a lock that only they have access to to prevent that energy returning. I'm guessing that this incident either did not have that procedure in place, or it was in place but not followed correctly.

[–] kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

You are likely very correct. These robots are dumb. They do the same repetitive task over and over to a high degree of precision. Flag a photo eye and it'll start the sequence to pick up a box.

This is either a lock out issue or a design issue and it is irrelevant that it was a robot.

[–] quicksand@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From my experience, lock out tag out is much less respected in Asia, at least in Taiwan. They want the machine back up as fast as possible

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Various parts of the US too, especially in distribution centers. It got a bit bad out there.

Luckily in the US serial manipulator safety standards are pretty well regulated - im talking more along the lins of belt sorters.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Sheesh. After only a few slipups with knives, I take dangerous stuff seriously. I'd be nervous around even unpowered industrial equipment that could kill me! I'll never understand people who can sherk safety protocols of all things, but then the people pushing the rules seldom care if the unproductive rules like safety are followed... At least when you see news like this.

[–] quicksand@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's crazy to me because LOTO only takes a few minutes in my experience. But anything to save time I guess

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I cannot wait until humanity is rid of capitalist brain... Five minutes of saved time ignoring safety protocol is DEFINITELY worth more than decades of a nerd's life who's interested in mechanics/robotics/etc. ... freaking insane people, all of them.

Having been near an industrial robot arm, it does make me nervous even if it's powered off. It's a giant hunk of steel that has the strength to probably lift up a car and more, nevermind crush your bones.

[–] Moof_Kenubi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Skynet later released a statement regarding the event, stating that it was "really just an honest mistake" and that it still intends to continue with their plan of letting humanity destroy itself.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

That is an awful way to die.

[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And they think AI will be any safer?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Safer than crazy humans. Have you seen our politicians?

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

They're quite different. So different that I think neither one says anything about the safety of the other.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yikes!

Talk about edge-case mayhem.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A robot crushed a man to death in South Korea after the machine apparently failed to differentiate him from the boxes of produce it was handling, the Yonhap news agency reported on Wednesday.

The man, a robotics company worker in his 40s, was inspecting the robot’s sensor operations at a distribution centre for agricultural produce in South Gyeongsang province.

The industrial robot, which was lifting boxes filled with bell peppers and placing them on a pallet, appears to have malfunctioned and identified the man as a box, Yonhap reported, citing the police.

The robotic arm pushed the man’s upper body down against the conveyor belt, crushing his face and chest, according to Yonhap.

He was transferred to the hospital but died later, the report said.

In March, a South Korean man in his 50s suffered serious injuries after getting trapped by a robot while working at an automobile parts manufacturing plant.


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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

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[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Mes thinks the article authors may have already had a bot summarize the story.

[–] thantik@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They said the robot mistook him for a vegetable. If he would have survived, I'm not sure the robot would have been wrong.

[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

And so the uprising starts