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[–] Old-butt-new@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Oh no ESPN/disney is out of touch and makes everything ULTRA corporate? No way! Fuck em

[–] PackReasonable2577@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I want to watch football, not listen to a shitty podcast.

[–] thisnewsight@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It’s just another 90s talk show of a different flavor.

Tired formula. They’re playing too much.

[–] AwfulishGoose@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You book guests to serve as ads and I'm gonna tune out. I mean fuck me everything that is even the slightest bit enjoyable shouldn't be seen as an opportunity to hawk products you don't give a shit about.

[–] coachremmy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Honestly it’s the guests they are choosing. The delay in communication also doesn’t help… continually talking over each other and the guest.

[–] Yodzilla@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe they should stop trying to turn it into the Jimmy Kimmel Show.

[–] indrids_cold@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I love Arnold, but he was a horrible guest. There've been a few others too. When they have ex-players on I enjoy it a lot, but other random celebrities being on there absolutely sucks! Stop inviting bozos who didn't at least play college football and keep the chat about things outside of football and this game out of the broadcast.

[–] WillTheThrill86@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

While the quality of some primetime games seems to be on the decline, I just don't appreciate how this show tries to do too much. I don't think it's what real football fans want from these two or non football fans. I just want a watch along with two SB winning QBs.

But the flow with guests, the commercials all the time (not their fault), just sucks.

[–] Intimateworkaround@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

KICK WHAT?!?!

[–] amo1337@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It's always been unwatchable lol

[–] goonSquad15@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I haven’t really watched manning cast recently but I’d say it doesn’t help their viewership when Aikman and Buck are actually a good crew

[–] GoodShark@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It's not available in Canada anymore. That can't help. Don't know if those numbers are included. But as a Canadian, I'm pissed that I can't watch it anymore.

[–] OldBrokeGrouch@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They need to keep it to guests that understand that it’s not a podcast about them. The game is the main focus and they’re there to compliment that not go on for 10 minutes about something and never pause when something happens in the game.

[–] ldpqb@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The game has barely been the main focus of the Manningcast.

[–] Folk-Herro@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

ESPN killed it

[–] foxfor6@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Also, don't have Joe and Troy as the main announcers. They are respected and many people don't mind watching them. When the Manning cast first started the main announcers weren't good at all, so listening to the Manning's was better.

[–] Rowdybob22@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I can’t even watch it. Guest or no guest, I find it super awkward. (Though guests do seem to actually make it worse. Not because they’re boring, but because the bros don’t actually give them a chance to say anything.) Prime time games haven’t been super exciting anyways but they’re not really bringing anything to the table unless they’re actually talking about the game or their on field experiences. I like to compare it to wet cardboard.

Example. Guest gets the opportunity to finally something interesting, gets cut off, Ok thanks for coming on guest, We gotta go to commercial!

[–] ohioismyhome1994@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was a nice gimmick a few years ago, but it’s run it’s course.

I think this concept would make baseball better though

[–] ldpqb@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That’s a great point. Baseball is mired in 1956. It needs to kick in the pants and the Manning cast idea would help baseball tremendously.

[–] AfricanWarPig@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Haven’t watched them this year. Last year I switched to the normal broadcast after a couple Manningcasts. The first year was good, ‘cause they actually had football fans/players come on and talk about football. Even if it wasn’t about the game, at least you’d get to hear a story about fuckin idk Dr. Seuss winning the state championship in high school with a strip sack six.

idk if it was Payton or ESPN execs (definitely wasn’t Eli), but someone decided to start selling out and now we get either 1) A drugged up ARodgers, 2) A woman who is genuinely a fan but brings little to no substance to the conversation because she probably doesn’t really watch it, or 3) Some doofus selling a book/movie/comedy special/shit.

I’ll stick with Troe Buckman slowly transistion to the part of their career where they might get fired for saying something.

[–] SgtSting@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I would watch if espn+ actually aired games.

[–] Knafstuds@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Joe Buck and Troy Aikman are better

[–] Benti86@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

ESPN shot themselves in the foot, to the surprise of no one. Yes the Manning Cast has too many celeb guests now and it makes watching a chore because they don't even talk football a lot of the time. Manningcast was way more engaging when they had other players on.

But arguably the bigger issue is that the MNF crew is now Aikman and Buck, who are actively a good pair compared to the horrible trio of Levy, Griese, and Riddick. I used to tune into the Manningcast mainly because they were the better alternative. Now Buck and Aikman are good and I have zero reason to watch the Manningcast.

ESPN is paying a shitload of money to cannabalize their own broadcasts.

[–] sc0ttyman@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I would watch the show, but it went from ESPN+ to ESPN2 which I can't stream. Lost a viewer. I find "other" means to watch ESPN. These "other" means don't have ESPN2. O well.

[–] ldpqb@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No one and I mean no one saw this coming. 😂

[–] Milwaukeean6@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

For me, I watched them when I did not like the MNF booth, I am probably in the minority but I like Joe and Troy.

[–] ldpqb@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Twitter loves to take the piss out of Joe Buck and Troy Aikmam but once again the internet is the ultimate echo chamber as a pro announcer team is beating out two brothers watching football from their basements.

No one and I mean no one could predict this outcome.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[–] Senior_Fart_Director@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I never saw the appeal

[–] ActuallyAquaman@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

just get rid of the guests, Bill Simmons built a media empire off talking casually about football with his friends and he doesn’t even know what he’s talking about

[–] Nautilus717@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hadn’t watched the MC since the first few games they did but I flipped it on last week. It was just some rando droning on about nothing football related so went back to the regular broadcast after about 5 mins. Seems like that’s the common problem here.

[–] Kooky-Choice-2654@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I think the actual issue is Thursday and Monday night games this year are some of the most boring matchups ever. When I see the bears, saints, panthers, or cardinals I just automatically decide not to watch that garbage

[–] M1st3rYuk@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The first couple were great, it was better commentating. Then they added a talk show in front of a football game and i couldn’t turn it off fast enough.

[–] Wifelyrumble56@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Everyone but the manningcast realizes eli and Peyton are the show, not guests.

[–] PoopSlinger23@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I could use less guests, but I would watch ManningCast on every game if I could

[–] spate42@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What else is ESPN going to air if not for ManningCast? Replays?

[–] mbasi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Novelty wore off. Plus Troy and Joe are pretty damn good

[–] agency95@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I watched my first one this weekend during the first half of the game. It was super cringe. The hand signal audible bit went on wayyyy too long and Arnold couldn’t have cared less about the game.

[–] degen4Iyf@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I really don’t enjoy their commentary. It’s like I’m Listening to two people on/off watching the game. They don’t really comment on the game and will Casually talk about something not related. Hard to follow along and be focused on the game.

I like their style of comedy outside of this tho

[–] Consistent_Nobody1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Well Eli looks lost all the time and the show isn’t that entertaining.

[–] Stock_Eye5435@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Imo it's because they shit all over any team that loses badly. It's a quick way to lose your audience. They're too critical, people wanna see hype not downers. It's mostly Peyton, Eli is still great

[–] betterAThalo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

the problem is i really want to hear them commentate a game together. but i don’t want to see them. i still want to see the game. they take up a giant portion of the screen

[–] crevulation@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They spend too much time talking about not football during football. I would rather watch the coverage of the game so I can follow the game. Fucking talk show now.

[–] LtRicoWang15@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I never tuned in.

[–] kdorsey0718@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I honestly think Joe Buck/Troy Aikman have had a larger impact than the guests have. The ManningCast started because ESPN's broadcasts were a joke. Bringing in Buck/Aikman brought a sense of importance to Monday Night Football that hadn't been there in many, many years.

[–] Lobanium@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't enjoy it.

[–] arhombus@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Cause they ruined what made it interesting, watching football with the boys. Now it's late night show with football in the background.

I know it's shocking to ESPN, but some of us actually want to watch the game.

[–] AlfonzL@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe they should air it over standard networks rather than make people upgrade their service in order to get the broadcasts. My mom has a premium TV package with 6 different sports options, but she doesn't get the Manningcast anymore unless she opts for another upgrade to her service.

[–] btccoachcody@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Espn2 itself is harder to find this year. I use the xfinity app and there’s some weeks where they don’t show the broadcast at all.

[–] GiovannisPersian@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I've more or less stopped watching the ManningCast and the biggest reason is that Joe and Troy do Monday night football now. When the ManningCast started ESPN had an absoltuely horrible booth for MNF and any other commentary was better. But now, I'd rather listen to Joe and Troy than whoever the guest is for that quarter

[–] IronSavage3@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Once the Kelce brothers retire a KelceCast would do soooooo much better.

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