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[–] visulvung@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

cause Brady was the actual OC.

[–] Koolklink54@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because he's just not that good of a coach, he's a phony

[–] daebro@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Could it be that winning in the NFL requires a combination of talent AND coaching?

[–] getbackup21@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Cause he isn’t good

[–] RagingEnglishaholic@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's kind of hard to be successful without cheating.

[–] phixitup@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Tom fuckin Brady made a lot of coaches a lot of money that they didn’t earn.

[–] ApolloXLII@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because it’s not a tree, it’s a cactus

[–] AyKayAllDay47@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Sometimes former players just don't pan out as decent coaches...

[–] psych0act1ve@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because no one is Bill Belichick, no one is Brady, and the Pats org was bigger that any one man towards the end. It was an institution

[–] Negative-Wrap95@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because nobody else had TB12 making them look better than they were?

[–] Alarming_Key_9854@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because it’s the Bill Belichik won with Brady coaching tree. They don’t have Brady.

[–] itreallydob@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] thatcreepywalrus@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The whole was it Brady or Belichick thing makes my head spin, honestly. I went from calling TB a game manager to saying it was all him to kind of just not knowing what was what anymore. The nfl in a nutshell, I suppose.

[–] Specter017@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because Bill Belichick is an over-rated HC who has consistently whiffed on draft picks and has only been successful with TB under center. He's a phenomenal defensive guru but he wouldn't have won a superbowl at all if he hadn't hit the QB lottery with TB12.

[–] Empty_Lemon_3939@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Short answer: McDaniels was OC to the GOAT and Patricia was DC to a defensive coach

They were both fraudulent assholes

[–] Wackdiesel@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What goes up must come back down

[–] Puzzleheaded-Hat353@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

No Tom Brady this is the reason.

[–] Nicetrybozo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think it's for a few reasons, mostly that dudes try to implement the Belicheat way in other orgs but don't have the track record or fortitude to do it. Also, I think Belicheat and Brady made a lot of folks look good during the dynasty that really weren't that special 🤷🏾‍♂️

[–] Mick_May@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because it wasn't Tom Brady's job to coach them.

[–] FireDanSnyder@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because Tom Brady

[–] Kevin_Jim@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because most tried to replicate the “Patriots Way” without Tom Brady. It didn’t work for them, like it doesn’t work for BB.

Playing not to lose/conservative, trying to add as many JAGs as possible that are your type of player, and trying to be an emotionless spartan douche only works when the whole undertaking is supported by the players.

Having an unbelievable QB that will cover up pretty much all your mistakes on offense, give time to your defense, and take all your BS and belittling to set the tone is rare.

All all the things Brady did for BB, at the end, BB didn’t even want to give him just a two-year guaranteed contract. And the last few years, every contract was incentive-based.

All the BB apologists can’t be mad if Kraft finally treats BB the same way he treated most Patriots legends, including the greatest football player of all time:

  • Teddy
  • Law
  • Wilfork
  • Mankins
  • Gronk
  • Wes
  • Moss
  • Brady

Not to me ruin players like: Ninko, Jamie Collins, etc.

Hell, we almost lost Hightower and DMac because of his BS…

[–] ChiefSaltyPanda@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because they were all products of Brady's success and not actually good coaches (they are mediocre coaches that also got elevated by Brady's play).

[–] Impressive_Ad_5614@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because he is way overrated because he had Brady.

[–] TowerOfPowerWow@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

cuz they don't have Brady

[–] spacesuitz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The limbs on this tree don’t have Tom Brady.

[–] jonadragonslay@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think BB has a unique adaptation technique/style that's hard to teach. This is coming from a Falcons fan, we shall never forget that day.

[–] fascinating123@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of the Brian Billick coaching tree. I guess slightly more successful since Marvin Lewis lasted forever in Cincinnati.

[–] PT0223@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because he’s nothing special - just a cheat.

[–] incompleteremix@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

While y'all fight among yourselves Brady is on his yacht drinking wine, banging chicks and enjoying how every Patriots loss validates his career

He doesn't let them know the secret of his success.

[–] Banyourmom@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Tom Brady wasn’t cloned as part of the package

[–] Paladin8753@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Cuz Flores is an arrogant know it all prick......alledgedly

[–] eh_too_lazy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I'm guessing because just like his players, he finds the best scheme fits and knows how to get the most out of his players and coaches in the past. Having josh McDaniels for almost all of those Brady years meant that he wasn't constantly losing OCs to HC jobs. Coaching is all about finding the right ppl to mesh with the right players you wanna have around your program. I think he finds good coordinators, but when they try to make the jump to HC it never works. Everyone knows about the Brian Flores Miami situation, but he's now gone to the Vikings as a DC and has turned around their defense. I think Bill creates a lot of positive bias towards people that work for him, And like a lot of players, he does a good job at playing to strengths and hiding weaknesses

[–] BobbyRayBands@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because none of them can recreate his defense. The closest you have to it is Vrabel which makes sense because as a former linebacker he should be familiar with most of the defensive schemes.

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[–] Direct_Poetry_1882@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because they can’t take Tom Brady with them

[–] DrConnors71@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The patriots success was never because of Belichick. It was all due to Tom Brady. Before Brady, Belichick never did anything significant as a head coach. Since Belichick wasn’t that good it stands to reason his assists weren’t much to speak of as well.

[–] KarmaDeliveryMan@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because Bill took his defense and team culture very serious and Brady took the offense and culture very serious. When you have the QB and HC on same page and both produce, people fall in line or fall by the wayside. And a lot of the guys he made who weren’t successful in other places knew if they followed, that was there chance.

McDaniels and Patricia never had that, PLUS, McDaniels just tried to be Bill but everyone sees through his veil

[–] Arel203@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because it was always Brady.

Take out Bill's record with Brady, and he's basically Matt Patricia.

[–] PotentialWhich@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The Patriots success wasn’t Bill Belichick, it was Tom Brady. Look at Bill without Tom both pre and post. Trash. Look at Tom without Bill. A Super Bowl in his first season on a new team without a pre-season during Covid. What’s wrong with the coaching tree, they don’t have Tom Brady on their new teams either.

[–] trillbobaggins96@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Bellichek himself is an all time fraud. Brady carried this guys legacy

[–] Joe_Hovah@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

How many coaching trees have really been all that great?

The only coaching tree that really worked was Bill Walsh.

Because there is only one Tom Brady

It’s very much a rarity for a guy to be cut out to be a head coach. I don’t wanna debate the talent level of these coaching trees but bottom line is being a head coach is a totally different beast than being a coordinator or positions coach. We take the good/great ones for granted.

Also situations/rosters matter a ton in football.

[–] IncursionG@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because he doesn't teach his coaches anything. It's the Patriot Way: you show up and do your job. He expects everyone to already know what they're doing. Coaches like Andy though, he coaches his staff just as much as his players throughout the season.

[–] Bumpi_Boi@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The people who leave don’t get Tom Brady

[–] jamesdeniro@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

No Tom Brady

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