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Looking at Myles Garrett’s career to this point he’s looking like the best 1OA non-qb I’ve seen in my lifetime, but I’m curious who the top one would be. I know it’s tough because different positions look at different metrics but is there someone above Garrett?

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[–] pendletonskyforce@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I was a kid who didn't follow college football yet I kept hearing Orlando Pace's name.

[–] 1BannedAgain@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

PAUL HORNUNG 1957. Led the league in scoring for like 50 years

[–] Raticus9@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] nonsensepineapple@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I have a soft spot for Billy Sims, and injuries cut his career way too short, but I think the Golden Boy is the answer to this question.

[–] Relayer8782@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looking at non QB #1 picks in the hall of fame 1997 - Orlando Pace, STL Rams, OT 1985 - Bruce Smith, BUF, DE 1978 - Earl Campbell, HOU (Oilers), HB 1976 - Lee Roy Selman, Tampa Bay, DE

[–] Jakebob70@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Earl Campbell was scary good, just had a relatively short career.

[–] TheFlyingWriter@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aside from alleged murder, are we going to forget about The Juice?

[–] realdeal411@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah the question wasn't "best non QB at #1 with no criminal convictions"

[–] JustSlay2@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Irving Fryar was a 5 time pro-bowler.
"Big Daddy" Dan Wilkinson was a force on the interior line.
Mario Williams wasn't the most exciting pick, but he was better than Reggie Bush or Vince Young. He was the right pick.

[–] dogboaner666@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Dan Wilkinson was absolutely not a force on the D line. He was replacement level.

[–] hoobsher@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  1. Bruce Smith
  2. Orlando Pace
  3. Ron Yary
  4. Myles Garrett
  5. OJ Simpson
  6. Earl Campbell
  7. Ed Too Tall Jones
  8. Bubba Smith
  9. Irving Fryar
  10. Keyshawn Johnson
  11. everyone else
[–] OskeeTurtle@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Really gonna put Myles Garrett over OJ Simpson & Earl Campbell? They both have arguments for best RB all time

[–] cherrimm@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

this list is stupid. either OJ is #1 or not on it at all. is your argument that his murders were bad enough to drop him from 1st to 5th???

[–] mr_himselph@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I actually had no idea Keyshawn was a number 1 pick

[–] LuckyAssumption8735@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Ron Yary les go

[–] TallEnoughJones@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Earl Campbell was pretty good

[–] Meadows14@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think you could make an argument that Garrett was the 2nd best first overall in the last 10 years.

He’s definitely better than:

  • Eric Fisher

  • Jadaveon Clowney

  • Jameis Winston

  • Jared Goff

  • Baker Mayfield

  • Kyler Murray

  • Travon Walker

Then TLaw I think is debatable because I don’t think we’ve reached his full potential (plus QB is more valuable). Bryce Young is too early but it doesn’t look good.

Burrow is obviously the best in the last 10 years.

[–] Optimus_Lime@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Goff revival of the last two years might have him finish higher on this list than you think

[–] KeithClossOfficial@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Burrow and Garrett are OPOY and DPOY level players. Just because Goff isn’t as good as them doesn’t mean he’s not good.

[–] churst50@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Burrow 100%

[–] allergic2URbullshit@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's an offensive line man.

[–] EmployUnfair@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Bruce Smith

[–] zlaw32@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fascinating that since 1997, only 3 positions have been selected first overall: QB, OT, and DE

[–] WestOrangeFinest@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Positional value goes crazy.

I’d like to think I would take the BPA but I can’t pretend like I wouldn’t lean heavily toward QB, LT, CB and pass rusher.

[–] yellowtriangles@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might see a WR go first this next draft

[–] spilled-Sauce@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

ugh if MHJ goes to the team that refuses to acknowledge the forward pass...

[–] ironmaiden7910@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Orlando Pace was pretty good too.

[–] Choop145@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Orlando Pace

[–] FreshHotPoop@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Micah. Aaron. Parsons.

[–] richie311gocavs@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Myles Garrett

[–] acewavelink@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we get a Bo Jackson Honorable mention? Since he technically was drafted by the Buccs in ‘86, even though he accepted being drafted 7th round selection in ‘87.

[–] MeechoMan@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Bo Jackson is overrated in the NFL world. Incredible athlete, potentially the greatest college football player of all time. When it comes to the NFL, he was a bust. It’s not his fault he got injured, but he was a bust

[–] Puntfootballs@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Travon Walker. Just wait for it. When this thread gets brought up again in 5 years, and he's made 4 all-pros, he'll enter the conversation. I'll be correct. This will age well.

[–] stripes361@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

My first thought was that it would likely be a great running back but I think I have to go with Bruce Smith. Still tied for the most first-team all-Pro selections of any defensive player ever. He has both a peak and longevity that maybe only Jerry Rice can match for non-QBs. Would be really hard to make a case to top him that’s based on objectivity rather than subjective factors like “cultural impact.”

[–] Nmilne23@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Is first overall really too long that we need to start using 1OA for it 😂