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[–] My2023Account@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Far from cheating Oher, the Tuohys' lawyers said in the statement, the couple "spent tens of thousands of dollars of their own money to support Mr. Oher during his high school and college years."

Is a really bad argument when you claim to have adopted him. Of course you supported your kid while they were in school.

[–] superpie12@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah and 100% of the movie rights should really be his anyway.

[–] HogHandlerHank@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Redditors trying to cope so hard to save face on this LOL

[–] mrplow3@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

They’re being sued. They are showing the profits they received were split fairly and then some. This is for the courts so I have no problem with this.

[–] Raticus9@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Pretty good. I don't even remember him being in that movie.

[–] Competitive_Bar6355@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anti dentite

[–] IAmSnort@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Art Buchwald should not have settled his suit over Coming to America. He could have exposed so many illegal practices. They paid him to go away and keep the cash flowing.

At first, I was like, "Who?"

Then I remembered and was like, "Ohim!"

... I'll see myself out.

[–] Peacefulzealot@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Look, the fact they put him under conservatorship rather than adopting him means I don’t give a shit what they say. That mere fact shows they didn’t see him as their son and they were in no hurry to correct that.

And given how much that movie made $138K is shockingly just a pittance. It’s his story, not theirs. And they had him use a family friend as his agent while they used an actual agent if I’m remembering correctly when it came to this movie.

[–] John_Bot@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Idk why this is such a sticking point for people.

They've said the lawyer said it was a problem to try adoption and that the conservatorship was the way to go. Isn't it very possible they heard that then never looked into it further, thinking the guy gave them good info?

It doesn't sound like they've done anything wrong with the money or anything. I'm sure he's been invited to every Christmas, etc.

At what point is the piece of paper important if everything else is above board?

[–] reddit_already@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Or if their main goal was to get him into Ole Miss without triggering NCAA violations, and if consevatorship was both simpler and sufficient, why look any further into adoption? Just do the less complicated thing.

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[–] reddit_already@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He's suing the Tuohys for ripping him off. He's not suing because the Tuohys used a consevatorship over adoption to get him into college (something Oher knew about years ago per his biography). Now the fact that Oher indeed got paid is definitely something his lawyers give a shit about. The prospect of a payday for both them and Oher just sank.

[–] FloppyDiskRepair@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely a moroic take, and from a fellow Bengals fan...

My guy, the family total made like $600k including Michael's share.

Also, when you have money and attorneys, and you bring in a late-teenage into your family that has never had access to money nor has he ever been properly educated on spending, a conservatorship is completely acceptable.

It's like you saw the Brittany thing and immediately went "conservator bad" without even a moment of critical thought.

Conservatorships are actually extremely good in concept. If the people in control are terrible, then it can be really bad. If they are good people, it can be incredibly beneficial. Don't be so black and white.

[–] megatrope@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Look, the fact they put him under conservatorship rather than adopting him means I don’t give a shit what they say. That mere fact shows they didn’t see him as their son and they were in no hurry to correct that.

I think the Tuohys probably had ulterior motives for “adopting” Oher, such as having a talent play for their high school and college.

I’m pretty sure the “adoption” was mainly to circumvent NCAA rules about boosters providing benefits to players. The exception, of course, would be providing to your own child. So they “adopted” Oher so he could play for Ole Miss.

The problem was that if they actually legally adopted Oher, he would be an inheritor of the Tuohy’s estate. So their lawyers came up with the conservatorship idea to be able to say Oher was their son.

So I don’t think the Tuohys are pure and innocent, but I doubt the Tuohy’s used the conservatorship itself for financial gain like signing contracts on Oher’s behalf and keeping the money, like Oher alleged.

Most likely Oher’s agent/lawyer told him there’s no way he got paid his fair share of the movie profits. Let’s sue and try to get some payday.

[–] mangosail@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The money is a pittance because getting a movie made about you is not lucrative. Michael Lewis sold the rights to this movie two times. The first time he sold it, they were paid a flat fee. That fee was $250K split among all of them. That’s the market rate for what a studio is willing to pay for a story like this. It’s very very low.

The first studio never made the movie, so then they sold it the second time. The second time, they instead got a variable fee based on how much the money made at the BO. This time they got $700K (of which, half went to Lewis). That’s almost triple what they got with their fixed deal. They ultimately got a good deal, for something that is not paid very highly

[–] spencer749@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

They spent 10s of thousands of their own money on him. They flew him around on a private jet, paid for his food and housing for years. I think that shows a level of care

[–] ExtensionDigs@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Did you watchtl the movie? It was more about the mom than anything. Also, with movies it's a complete fool's errand to look at the end result profits and determine if the deal signed was unjust to anyone, that's how contracts work in every field of business where the outcome is unknown, it's a gamble on the movie producer's part as well. You are ignorant of what people are typically paid for their rights to a story, what he was paid, and each of the family as well which was the same amount, was actually an overpay when compared to what's typical. These are objective facts, some people appreciate them, others don't as many have clearly illustrated.

[–] justlookingokaywyou@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Now Michael Oher is riding around on a bike and yelled "bing bong"

[–] TumbleweedTim01@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Seems like they all got fleeced on the deal lol. The fam made less than 500k which was paid out over 15 years and Oher got 138k

[–] MilhouseLaughsLast@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

seems fair for doing nothing?

[–] reddit_already@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The total payout may be less than expected. But the family has all along said they split the proceeds evenly between all the family members and Oher. So, the numbers here, incl. Oher's amount, roughly work out.

[–] TumbleweedTim01@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

But when you see 300 million and your payout was 130k that you received over the span of 15 years it prob doesn't make sense

[–] KiNGofKiNG89@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He got 5% of the profits. That’s pretty good.

Interesting to see how he lied though.

[–] weightsment@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] WordsAreSomething@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

So that's like 32% of what they claimed to have gotten paid according to the article, which doesn't seem exactly fair to me. He's more than a third of the story, more than half even

[–] HotDogWater1978@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Still not much

[–] TheKrakenLord@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MechanicalGodzilla@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Which would be kinda crazy, assuming he knew he received a lot of money for the movie.

[–] xCTRLxALTxDELx@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thought he didn’t see anything from it.

[–] JuanG12@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m not overlooking the conservatorship they had over him, which is fucked up, but the fact he claimed he never received any money from the movie and this comes out is a bad look. Others have mentioned ‘Hollywood accounting’ in this thread, which is shady accounting they do to report zero profits or losses, yet he received $138K. Not a whole lot, given the film’s numbers, but still more than he claims and more than people who choose film royalties.

[–] electricHats75@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If he was under conservatorship and he received money that means they controlled the money he received right?

[–] Snoo_70531@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It must be nice when you can be that confident, “I NEVER SAW A DIME FROM THAT MOVIE, well yeah the hundred and thirty eight thousand dollars, SO BASICALLY NOTHING!”. I feel like there are a decent amount of people where that’s close to like a decade of 50 hour work weeks. But he’s so talented, should’ve been making 138 million /s

[–] megatrope@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

maybe Oher thought the Tuohys got millions from the movie, so $100k was “nothing”.

[–] GiggityDPT@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's wild how so many people can have a very strong opinion on something that they clearly don't have 75% of the relevant info for. lol fucking social media.

[–] Ok_Run_8184@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

People really just read the first things that come out in the case, make up their minds, and never read anything else.

See also- the Alabama basketball shooting that happened last year, where a bunch of info that made the case way more complicated and messier than it first appeared came out, but, but everyone just ignored it and carried on spouting misinformation.

[–] Fickle_Broccoli@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You would think people would get exhausted from holding very strong opinions, only to realize they were bamboozled time after time

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[–] fy_pool_day@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

There was a movie about it. I’m an expert

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[–] Avgsizedweiner@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How People think they knew he would be an NFL and make money off him is insane to me. They spent tens thousands of dollars on him through high school and college to go to a private high school and they evenly split the money between the family. This sounds more like someone got in Oher’s ear and unfortunately he listened. The family enabled Oher to have a career that he would not have had without their help and because of them he’s a millionaire and has a movie. I can’t believe people think he’s being used.

[–] Ok_Run_8184@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If their motivation was to get him into the NFL for the money, then they sure failed at doing anything with that money. Oher isn't alleging they tried to take any of it.

[–] reddit_already@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly. But the story you tell just doesn't give reddit the same racial justice boner. So, most choose instead the more sensational and satisfying (but far less plausible) scenario.

Reddit's speed at (wrongly) vilifying the Tuohys is soon to be memory-hold. Watch (or rather not) for vindicating facts, such as the present ones, to (never) get elevated to the same degree as the more dopamine-inducing false allegations.

[–] megatrope@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This sounds more like someone got in Oher’s ear and convinced him he was being used and unfortunately he listened.

Bingo. Oher’s agent or lawyer probably thought there’s no way the Tuohy’s received less than $1M on a $300M movie. Let’s sue them to reveal the numbers.

[–] Medarco@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He also released a brand new book, conveniently one week before the lawsuit went public.

Free publicity!

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[–] im_sponge_worthy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What did oher do with his nfl money that he needs to chase after money that he didn’t do much to earn?

[–] Crazyworldwelivin69@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This dude made more than $34 million dollars from the NFL, the fact he tried to originally get $15 million from this family or he would try to dump dirt on them tells me he blew through it already.

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[–] tattermatter@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] superpie12@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, they didn't. They're stole it. They used his image. They stole money from him as a player. They used him and lied to him.

[–] Wisdomlost@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dont know what the truth is. Only Oher and this family know. That being said 2 things make me believe Oher is closer to right then the family. 1 they tricked him into a conservatorship instead of adopting him like they said they were. 2 they made sure their whole family including their biological kids got paid off of anything to do with Ohers story. Why would a 5 way split make any sense at all? Your pushing this narrative of helping a poor person elevate their life and the way you show that is selling his life story and giving him 1/5th of what that story is worth. The white family who is already well off is getting 4/5ths of the money to help out poor people.

[–] __ChefboyD__@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The Blind Side is the typical white savior trope that makes it marketable, not Oher. There's hundred of poor kids making it to the NFL - nothing special about that,

Sandra Bullock is the star, not Quinton Aaron. That should tell you exactly where the marketing priority is and what sells. So each family making a share makes absolute sense. Plus, the father sold his businesses for over $200 MILLION - they don't need Oher to make money.

[–] Tfoster100@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Gotta pay those movie executives millions first. Then catering. Then taxes. Royalties way down the line. lol

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