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[–] stingers77@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Most competetive league in the world and it's not even debatable

[–] Yung2112@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

One of the best systems too. Everyone's fighting for something over there

[–] Alex_Sander077@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Top 5 league in the world and I'm tired of pretending it's not

[–] Mahatma_Gone_D@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a league leader with under 60 points after GW 32 for division with 20 teams. I don’t know if that’s good or bad still

[–] daboatfromupnorth@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The fact that continental spots + relegation account for the majority of the table makes this league insanely tense, Everyone always has something to play for.

[–] 53bvo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I followed the league a bit when I studied in Brazil and ever since I occasionally take a look at the table and each season it is a different team being at the top or bottom. Feels like almost anyone can win or relegate.

[–] Albiceleste_D10S@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Is 36 year old Suarez playing with 1 knee going to carry a newly promoted team to the title?

[–] static_reset@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Botafogo gave up a 16 point lead, a streak of like 18 matches unbeaten across all competitions (and I think another streak as locals) and lost 3 key matches back to back (one in a clásico against Vasco). It’s actually maddening how badly they’re fucking up this season

[–] 53bvo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

When I saw this post I thought “huh close lead? But Botafogo had an impossibly big lead how can it be close?”

[–] Reyfou@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The funny thing is that they are just not simply "losing". They are losing in the most unbelievable way.

They lost a game where they had a 3-0 lead last week. And yesterday they lost a game they were leading by 3-1.. I simply cant believe this choke!!!

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[–] VetusMortis_Advertus@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Worth noting that number 8 (fluminense) was libertadores winner, number 11 (fortaleza) sulamericana finalist and number 14 (inter) was almost libertadores finalist being send out by fluminense in the last minutes of the semi finals. Grêmio was in serie B last year but with the power of Suarez and futevôlei are managing to fight for the title. The last time botafogo won the league was in 95, and they were 13 points clear mid season. This league is truly amazing

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[–] ggstan21@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] djnv4life@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Please don't let Red Bull win this league as well.

[–] Ghostface1357@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This title race and relegation battle is INSANE.

Bragantino have Botafogo and Flamengo back to back, two crazy games.

[–] 69cuccboi69@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

How do people feel about RB Bragantino in Brazil? Do they hate them like Leipzig in Germany or not really care?

[–] Salanha04@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Indiference is the right word, but as we hate the rivals more i think neutrals would pick them to win the title race as they aren't great rivals for anyone

[–] sintapilgo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Our clubs are so poorly managed that we think RB can set a good example on how to do things correctly. We don't really care about they being an artificial team, we have more important issues to deal with, like very bad football pitches.

[–] Reyfou@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

From my part, indifferent. I really dont care about them, but id much rather having them as champions, than botafogo or palmeiras.

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[–] MrRawri@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So many teams who can win the title, the ending's gonna be crazy

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[–] gonnj@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If Botafogo bottle this, I will understand if some fans never watch football again.

[–] daboatfromupnorth@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Our biggest lead when nobody had a game in hand was 8 points and we were still extremely disappointed. I can’t imagine how botafogo fans will recover if they really do fumble it.

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[–] Ok-Sherbert-5959@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Holy fuck that last 5 looks brutal.

[–] Maximuslex01@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If? It's already gone...

Botafogo absolutely bottling the league

[–] TerkYerJerb@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

WWWWW

FICA SUAREZ

[–] Arantes_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And at the halfway point there were pundits saying the league was wrapped up already...

5 rounds to go and the first and 4th placed teams meet this weekend, before the final stretch after the return from the international break.

Bragantino's match in hand is against Flamengo, and Botafogo's is against Fortaleza if I'm not mistaken. Fortaleza are no pushover, despite being all the way down in 11th, they can climb up to 8th with their matches in hand.

The fight for the top 4 Libertadores spots is going to be mad, and none of those top 4 or even 6 teams are guaranteed to hold on to that coveted spot while also believing they can win the whole thing.

[–] rinnagz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, tbf no one was expecting what is happening atm, if Botafogo was half decent they would still be like easily 6 or 9 points ahead without considering the missing game.

They went from 2 defeats in 19 games to 9 defeats in 32.

They lost almost 4 times more in the last 13 games than they did in first 19.

[–] TerkYerJerb@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ffs, honestly I'm still bitter over 4 matches

Conceding near the end against Bragantino - 3x3

The defensive issues against Corinthians and the neglected clear penalty near the end - 4x4

Two 1x2 losses after scoring the first goal against Santos and Atlético PR

Well, there's a reason we're the fourth worst defense...

[–] Dsalgueiro@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

My guy...

Atlético Mineiro lost to Cruzeiro, Vasco and Coritiba at home. And drew twice with América Mineiro (once after taking a 2-0 lead).

My sanity is gone.

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[–] PHReb10@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Best league in the world!

[–] Sacreville@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Damn, 1 point in last 5 matches for Botafogo. And Gremio somehow 2nd place with 49 goals conceded.

Brazil league is wild.

[–] deepodic@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Botafogo had 47 pts in the first 19 games, only to follow with 12 in the next 13. Absurd drop in quality

[–] alekdefuneham@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Grêmio’s 9 is Luis Suarez. They concede 3 and win 4x3.

[–] Sdnz0r@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I already accepted that this will be another title for Flamengo, I just hope Palmeiras manages to get a G4 finish.

[–] junior150396@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My idolo Ramon Diaz pulling the impossible with Vasco, his magia Cuyana is insanely strong.

[–] deepodic@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbf Vasco squad improved drastically on the midseason window and they were definitely underperforming before. But Díaz is doing very well!

[–] TheConundrum98@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see their score since Payet arrived is 6-3-3 so sort of a great escape, but looking at the stats he hasn't been too impactful

[–] lsilva231@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vegetti was their most impactful signing of the season, their season completely turned around when they got a number 9 capable of scoring.

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[–] Enough-Custard6496@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I saw Botafogo vs Fluminese live a few weeks ago and WOW Bota dominated and were on a different level, how they are bottling this is crazy

[–] deepodic@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Fluminense didn’t really have their minds on this game though. They have been on very lousy form in the league, totally focused on winning Libertadores (and, well, it worked)

[–] DontCareBuddyThanks@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Botafogo 1st place is like a cow on a tree, nobody knows how it got there, you just know it's gonna fall

[–] kaicbrown@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] SmartBoi-2619@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What does the goals column signify?

[–] daboatfromupnorth@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is my first year following this league and my god do I enjoy the chaos from top to bottom. Come on vascoooo

[–] Argo_Menace@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Vasco. Almost in the relegation zone? What happened?

[–] still_theory@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you not been following Brazilian football in the past 20 years?

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[–] pauloh1998@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I'd be surprised if they weren't

[–] Shinigam_i@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Arsenal : First time?

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