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Roses are red, violets are blue, everyone is using IPv6, why aren't you? (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by carrylex@lemmy.world to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev
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People have been asking for IPv6 Support on GitHub since years (probably a decade by now)

... and someone even got so annoyed that they decided to setup a dedicated website for checking this: https://isgithubipv6.live/

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[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why should we care? So address space may run out eventually - that's our ISPs' problem.

Other than that I actually don't like every device to have a globally unique address - makes tracking even easier than fingerprinting.

That's also why my VPN provider recommends to disable IPv6 since they don't support it.

[–] MrRazamataz@lemmy.razbot.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Because people in countries with ISPs that are unable to provide IPv4 (e.g. too expensive) can't access GitHub easily.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m not using it because by and large it’s not implemented properly on consumer hardware, and my ISP doesn’t care if their IPv6 network is broken.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've tried multiple times to go IP6 only. I mostly thought, despite my reasonable understanding of IP4, that I was the problem in trying to set it up. I found my dns host was being forgotten multiple times a day, set to something invalid, then it would time out and revert back to the working one. I couldn't figure out how to connect two computers together for Minecraft.

Now I hear it was just garbage consumer hardware and software? Fuck me. So much wasted time and effort to say nothing of believing I had turned into a tech idiot.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You’re not an idiot. You’re using tools that don’t really do what they claim because it wasn’t considered an important use case.

IPv6 is great, but we haven’t seen enough pain yet to really drive adoption on the home LAN.

My solution uses the ISP box to deliver stateless auto conf, and bridging a consumer router. I can’t open ports but at least I get an IP.

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you have an example? Because it works great on openwrt, dd-wrt, pfsense, opnsense, unifi, mikrotik....and then if you're using the isp equipment it works out of the box.

[–] madscience@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re using open source third party firmware and higher end networking gear as an example. Of course they work. Shitty consumer grade brands aren’t in the same class

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think an asus, linksys, netgear,etc doesnt handle ipv6???

[–] JATtho@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm actually bit sad that I had to move onto a ISP which has zero IPv6 support, as I previously did have IPv6. The last thing I did on that connection was to debug the hell out of my IPv6 code I had developed.

[–] snugglebutt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel you, moved ISP maybe 3 months ago, only to find out I'm behind CGNAT and no IPv6..

[–] sep@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That should simply not be allowed. Cgnat for ipv4 is fine if they also provide proper ipv6

[–] the_doktor@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Working in computing for years and this is what I've heard

2000: IPv4 is about to dry up, we really need to start moving to v6!

2005: OH NO THE SKY IS FALLING IPv4 IS ALMOST GONE! IPv6 IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO OR THE INTERNET WILL DIE!

2010: WE'RE SERIOUS THIS TIME IPv6 NEEDS TO BE A THING RIGHT NOW! HELP!

2015: Yeah, okay, NAT has served us well so far, but we can only take it so far, we really need v6 to be the standard in the next 5-10 years or we're in trouble!

2020: Um... guys? IPv6? Hello? Anyone? crickets

2024: IPv6ers are now the vegans of networking

this may or may not be satire, just laugh if unsure

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But new IPv4 allocations have run out. I've seen ISPs that won the lottery in the 90s/2000s (when the various agencies controlling IP allocations just tossed them around like they were nothing) selling large blocks for big money.

Many ISPs offer only CGNAT, require signing up to the higher speed/more expensive packages to get a real IP, or charge extra on top of the standard package for one. I fully expect this trend to continue.

The non-move to IPv6 is laziness, incompetence, or the sheer fact they can monetize the finite resource of IPv4 addresses and pass the costs onto the consumer. I wonder which it is.

[–] nick@midwest.social -1 points 1 year ago

I’m not. I disable it on all Linux machines I manage. And we do not use it at work either.