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  • Nick Clegg, former Meta executive and UK Deputy Prime Minister, has reiterated a familiar line when it comes to AI and artist consent.
  • He said that any push for consent would “basically kill” the AI industry.
  • Clegg added that the sheer volume of data that AI is trained on makes it “implausible” to ask for consent.
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[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Using the same logic, it is "implausible" that we would not take money from those who have it and give it to the sheer volume of people who need it.

Oh. Suddenly it doesn't work that way. Huh. Funny how that is.

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[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? No, says the man on Wall Street; it belongs to the shareholders.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 3 days ago

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of ALL the brows?

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 12 points 3 days ago

My permission costs $2.50 for every time AI reads my text or uses it in the background. Thank you! Come again!

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

He admit it!

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago
[–] frezik@midwest.social 16 points 4 days ago

There's a thread of thought that pops up in pro-AI posters from time to time: technology can't go backwards. The implication being that the current state of AI can only improve, and is here to stay.

This is wrong. Companies are spending multitudes of piles of cash to make AI work, and they could easily take their ball and go home. Extending copyright over the training data would likely trigger that, by the industry's own admission.

No, self-hosted models are not going to change this. A bunch of people running around with their own little agents aren't going to sustain a mass market phenomenon. You're not going to have integration in Windows or VisualStudio or the top of Google search results. You're not going to have people posting many pics on Facebook of Godzilla doing silly things.

The tech can go backwards, and we're likely to see it.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Also Clegg

asking women for permission would ruin my sexlife.

probably.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (6 children)

If I had a gun with 3 bullets and I was in a room with Meta, Hitler and Bin Laden. I would shoot Meta thrice.

[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I would shoot hitler twice, then bin laden, then beat meta to death with the gun because it would hurt more.

[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

What if you were in a room with Meta, Hitler and Nick Clegg?

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Yay, kill it please.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago
[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 4 days ago

AI is not just limited to these overhyped plagiarism machines. Will consent laws kill vision systems? Will they kill classifiers? Will they kill gradient descent? No, they won't.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago
[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Ah, if it isn’t my old friend Mr. Nick Clegg, with a dick for a face and an ass for a head!

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I’m not a fan of intellectual property law. I’m down to abandon it, once we establish an artist stipend to pay a regular salary for artists to live a life of dignity.

Maybe introduce a tax on AI to pay for it.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (4 children)

How did the media industey call pirates? Parasites?

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I doubt it. With that $500 billion dollar grant, you can hire people to make art to train on. That's a LOT of money.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What makes you think that they'd do that?

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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well the AI companies and investors should have understood that building an industry off of doing something questionable was risky and risks don't always work out.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Fine then, kill it.

[–] HakunaHafada@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago
[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ha... He was the Lib Dem poster boy for a good decade. And they're something akin to pro-business libertarians. I wonder what Lib Dem Dep PM Clegg would have said to this!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He was the poster boy because he managed to rise to the rank of completely irrelevant, the highest level of office any lib dem has ever achieved.

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[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It’s implausible that I would pay for Netflix, Disney+, Paramount+, etc.

When I can just build a server and buy a VPN connection.

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[–] sircac@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago
[–] Siresly@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

Well let's hope it will.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 8 points 4 days ago

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