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[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Democrats got paid to lose plain and simple

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Yeah. The DNC either don't realise, or refuse to realise, that electing Trump is not in approval of him, but expression of disapproval of the Democratic Party.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"A lot of the people are saying it was Joe Biden's fault that Kamala Harris lost the election … not true. It was the fault of Kamala Harris and her consultants,"

Full clip here

He also said "I ran all over the country to try to elect her" so it's a pretty longshot from these comments claiming both sides bad. If all of you, everyone eligible to vote in 2024, had listened to Bernie Sanders then Kamala Harris would be president and none of this would have happened.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 27 points 5 days ago (21 children)

She failed to differentiate herself from biden in many different ways. One of which was her stance on genocide. Less people generally came out and voted for her in part due to these factors

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Yes, the Democratic Party is more subtle in regard to their support for oligarchs and corruption. With exception to Senator Sanders, the old coots should fucking retire. The election loss proved the AmeriKans are sucking down the Orange Kool-Aid and want the US Constitution to burn.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago

Corporate democrats #1 policy: protect the 1% at all costs

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Cuz they all went to billionaire schools that tells them support billionaires and the economy will be good.

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[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 days ago

It is perfectly fine, in fact it would be incredibly refreshing & welcome, to admit...she was a shitty candidate. Fuck, she was so terribly bad. And Tim Walz was a bad pick, too.

Everything was fake. Every day it unraveled more. She was caught saying things like, "I am different than Biden, I am not Biden, do not let his presidency reflect on me." What would you do differently? "Nothing, I wouldn't change anything." Okay....so....how are you different if everything Biden did was totally great & you wouldn't do anything differently?? 🤡 Heavily paraphrased, of course, the convos were more detailed (which only made it worse).

It's fine to say Kamala Harris was a cringe candidate. Completely unwanted, unelected, unqualified. Biden bowed out & the DNC shoved her in; there is no logical reason to continue to own her as your candidate & representative. You don't bring dead babies to Passover. This is an opportunity to rebrand the Democrat Party, to refocus on issues that actually matter. That is to say....if anyone still gives a goddamn about the issues that actually matter.

[–] whaleiam@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago

And wow Bernie is right again.

[–] dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (19 children)

Really?

I blame it on the working class choosing billionaires over the working class. That's how we got kamala and biden in the first place.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't dislike Kamala, and Trump is a sociopath. I realize Joe Biden probably had cancer before he dropped out and that's why he dropped out. But I have to also say that voters probably didn't like the bait and switch approach where they suddenly felt they had to support her simply because she appeared as the candidate in the last legs of the campaign. I think diversity and female leadership is important, but probably asking undecided voters to go for a POC woman when that's not who they started out supporting probably didn't help. Old white centrists don't like that, and she didn't have time to build a campaign and show her skills like Obama did. Probably a good chunk of people straddling the line vote wise didn't love that. We had this happen in Canada recently with our new prime minister Carney, but he's an older white centrist dude, and we were clearly ok to hold our noses and do it to keep out the conservatives, but I think if it was someone like Kamala they might not have won.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Biden didn't drop out because of his cancer. He dropped out because that disastrous debate made it impossible for him to win. If he had really wanted to drop for his health, he would have done it at least the year before to give time for a primary.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Even without the debate, Bidens poll numbers for years before the debate made it impossible for him to win. No candidate has ever come from that far behind and won. When Roe went down on his watch his numbers cratered and never recovered. The DNC knew this but they wanted their AIPAC war to continue uninterrupted, or else give the chair to trump, who was their desired pick anyway. So they bought that outcome.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

First time I don't 100% agree with him. I partially agree with Bernie here. Had Harris stuck with a more progressive ticket, she'd have stood a better chance; however, that doesn't explain the millions and millions of Americans that voted for a convicted criminal, rapist, kleptocrat, that claims to be for Jesus.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

that doesn’t explain the millions and millions of Americans that voted for a convicted criminal, rapist, kleptocrat, that claims to be for Jesus.

Hate is a POWERFUL narcotic.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Trump is a collective tantrum by aggrieved people.

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[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If Bernie would've been warning about this in 2023, he would've been called red fash.

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[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago (5 children)

It's not just Kamala Harris, it is democrats in general. I get that they want the first woman president ... but its not going to happen in this political environment. Many Hatian immigrants that voted for Trump just because they don't think a woman can be president. Copy that ... Trump said these people are eating cats and they still voted for him. Hispanics? News flash, they are predominantly Catholic ... so Pro Choice doesn't go over well for them. Then people got angry because Kamala skipped the whole nomination prosses. Stuff like this is why she lost. Biden should have ran, then resigned after he beat Trump again.

[–] LogicalFallacy@lemm.ee 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No way Biden wins a second time. His mind was critically failing during the debates, the average voter saw that, and minorities didn't win him the election overall, white people did.

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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

We have literal scientific proof that voters don't give a shit if the candidate is a man or a woman.

Please really do stop this narrative. It makes more damage than you think

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