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The new Valve Steam Deck OLED didn't just change the screen: Almost every part of the device has had some sort of revision, from the screws to the power topology of the motherboard. Some of these changes happened silently in the Voyager platform refresh for the Steam Deck, but the majority of large changes are brand new. Memory underwent relocation and now uses better modules, the cooling solution has had its fan flipped and thickened, and the controller component PCBs have had some consolidation and durability improvements. In this tear-down of the new Steam Deck OLED, we'll compare the new Steam Deck vs. the original, old Steam Deck "LCD" model.

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[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Would be interesting in seeing the thermal and fan noise results.

Whilst I have no plans on buying the OLED edition, it did make me question that decision a couple of times watching these reviews come in. The LCD edition, with its quirks, is serving me just fine.

I'm also impressed with how candid Valve is bring with both their system & repairability improvements. Just wish other corporations did the same.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Valve seems to be firmly within the category of enthusiast run company. The heads of EA, Microsoft, etc clearly don’t game. Valve is clearly run by people who do and want their hobby to have a better environment. It’s the only expectation I have for their consistent pro consumer behavior. That or the fact that it’s been wildly profitable so why stop.

[–] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pro consumer behaviour like refusing to sell the Deck in Australia because of our Consumer protection laws?

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is that really why they don’t sell in Australia? I don’t believe your consumer protections laws are tougher than Europe. I can’t find any stated reason for not selling in AU. I suspect it’s just down to market size. They only recently started selling in Japan and they have 5x as many people.

[–] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Valve were fined $3M a few years back for lying to consumers about their rights to refunds per Australian law so it is an ongoing joke that Gabe now hates Australia and refuses to sell the Deck here as punishment.

That said it isn’t an entirely business-led decision to not sell here. Australians spend more on PC gaming than Japan.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I highly doubt Newell is harbouring some kind of grudge. Several countries have ruled against Valve in more onerous ways.

I’m not sure where you got the notion that Japan is a larger market than Australia but the Japanese spend around US$26B/year on video games. Australia is around $US$2.6B. Australia isn’t even in the top 10% worldwide. Now factor in expensive shipping, distribution, and warranty support in Australia, and it seems fairly obviously why they haven’t expanded there yet.

[–] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I said it was a joke.

I also specified PC games, which is the only market Valve cares about, and in which Australia spends more money than Japan. Add in localisation and other impediments to getting into the Japanese market and no, it’s not obvious at all.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pro consumer behaviour like refusing to sell the Deck in Australia because of our Consumer protection laws?

That didn’t really seem like a joke to me but thanks for clarifying. I guess conveying tone is difficult across text.

I’m not sure if you’ve seen them yet but Steam Decks aren’t PCs. They’re handhelds. They compete with handhelds like the Nintendo Switch. I understand there is category overlap with the Deck but to call it a PC is clearly silly.

[–] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Anyone spending money on a game to play on a deck is spending money in the “PC” games market.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 10 months ago

The benefits of having decent people running a privately owned company is pretty astounding. Once you go public and have a board that legally has and wants to make as much money as possible, it seems like things are sure to go to shit.

[–] PastaRhythm@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Taki Udon went pretty in-depth with thermals in their review. The already great thermals have been drastically improved. The OLED runs cooler in general and does a better job of keeping the heat away from your hands. The fan is quieter than the old model. I linked to the part of the video where they discuss thermals, but the whole video is pretty interesting.

[–] npaladin2000@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

This looks like a typcial console refresh. Fix the user pain points, find ways to make it cheaper to make, and maintain compatibility with the ecosystem. It's more for new Deck users than as an upgrade for existing users. And it worked: I want one.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I had hoped the OLED screen would be compatible with the LCD Steam Deck, but I understand why they chose to redesign the internals.

I already dread having to replace the battery down the road, since I've got one of the early Decks with a heavily glued in battery.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 10 months ago

I've been repairing crap like this for decades. I haven't done the steam deck battery yet but already know an easy enough way to get it done.

Use a plastic playing card, and you may want to cut one in half so it isn't as wide. Get a shallow bowl of 90 or higher iso alcohol to dip a bit of plastic playing card into.

Dip card, hold deck upside down so no access alcohol goes down into the lcd screen (avoids slight chance of issues) and start wedging the card under the battery to eat and peel away the adhesive. Just keep dipping and pushing the card under.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago

I would honestly not worry too much.

The glue is a mother fucker, no arguments there. There ARE actually very good reasons for it but... it still sucks.

But as long as you aren't going at it with a butter knife For Content, it is mostly just tedious. Get a plastic pryer/splitter and a heat gun and go to town. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Steam+Deck+Battery+Replacement/149070 is the gold standard guide for that.

I've seen some solvents advertised for specifically this use case (remove glued in electronics parts) but I personally wouldn't trust those without a LOT of reviews. Like, if it were that simple, ifixit and the like would already be selling it.

But also? I doubt it is going to be an issue outside of RMA-worthy problems. The days of batteries failing left and right are gone now that basically every device has logic to not over-charge or kill the zero. Think of the Steam Deck like a phone. It has a 2-6 year life cycle at which point it will be "weak enough" to not run anything remotely new and likely have a replacement with MUCH better everything (Valve best keep that audio jack though....). Now, PC gaming gets weird as I think my most played games at this point are Warframe and Dwarf Fortress (and that goes back to the curses only days...) but... yeah.

[–] cron@feddit.de 22 points 10 months ago

Now that was an intersting watch. It appears that not one part of the steam deck was untouched.

[–] kryllic@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

The real question is do the fans still smell good when they kick on for the first time? Mine lost its new-factory smell