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NASA leveled by Trump (www.nasa.gov)

submitted 1 week ago by UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world to c/science@lemmy.world

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Not only is Trump leveling science funding at NASA, like he did with the National Science Foundation, but look closely at the budget. Beginning next year at 800 million and by 2030, 3.5 billion (nearly 20% of its budget), NASA is required to work towards “Commercial Moon and Mars Infrastructure and Transportation”. The ultimate subsidy for the commercial space sector.

They also eliminated STEM engagement program, which provided funding for the next generation of scientists to participate in NASA opportunities. I can’t wait for all this greatness Trump has been preaching to arrive.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 118 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

So, we all know what's going on here, right? They're gutting any part of our society that relies on intellectual work and trying to compete with motherfucking robots to bring factories back. They want to cram everyone into sweatshops. The plan was never to bring good jobs back, the plan was always live-in factories and suicide nets on the windows.

E: well, at least the Roman space telescope lives on, I guess. I'm unreasonably excited for it; it's already built and just needs to be launched, basically.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The Roman telescope will likely get shoved in storage. I work on it right now, we are talking internally about what this means. Obviously, I have no more information than you do, but the cuts are severe enough that there's no way we will be able to keep working on it at the current levels if this goes through.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago

FUCK. Wishing you guys all the best!

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The plan was never to bring good jobs back, the plan was always live-in factories and suicide nets on the windows.

Bold of you to assume they'll spring for nets.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 52 points 1 week ago

This is the same vibe as when the CEO gets a million dollar raise but we don't have money for cost of living increases this year.

Sorry USA kids. No astronaut program this summer. Dream smaller this year.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

So, Trump wants NASA to get to the Moon and Mars by 2030 while on a slashed budget with limited scientists? Get ready for more spacecraft to drop out of the sky.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 40 points 1 week ago

No, Trump does not want NASA to get to the Moon or Mars.

Trump wants NASA to be a tool that funnel money from the government to billionaires, aka Musk and Bezos

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Nu-uh magic Musk is going to fix all our problems.

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Sadly, getting more places with less money is absolutely possible, but the key to making it happen is abandoning planetary science. It’s a shift from a paradigm where engineering exists to support planetary science efforts to engineering for engineering’s sake

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's okay. Europe and China will replace the US and the world will be better off.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not sure that's true, but alright

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not sure about what? The US is certainly getting replaced, and we'll all be better off if the Great Satan isn't the center of scientific progress.

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[+] Doom@ttrpg.network -29 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Hahaha y'all been saying that for a decade already don't you get bored?

China is dying too silly. Their housing bubble is a nightmare, their currency is not desirable and all their factory jobs are going overseas.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

China is dying

Hahaha y’all been saying that for a decade already don’t you get bored?

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

see how ridiculous it sounds? silly fake commies

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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Their housing bubble is a nightmare

You're saying that as if the US economy hasn't been a fucking bubble bath ever since the stock market got created. Bubbles don't matter apparently, which is stupid but this is the world we live in.

their currency is not desirable

That's the point, they don't want to make their wages incompetitively high by inflating their cost of living and thus nominal wages to the moon like the US.

all their factory jobs are going overseas.

That... is the goal? Factory jobs are low-added-value, you need educated people doing high wage jobs to become a developed country.

I'm not stanning China, there are plenty of shit things aobut the country, but looking from here in Europe, it looks like they are a better partner than the US. Both of them do genocide, have a shitty human rights record, have neocolonial tendencies, shitty worker's rights, no proper democracy, etc.

But China is at least stable as a trading partner.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Not that stable. Source: am Canadian. See Meng Wanzhou and the Michaels, and the police stations.

China: Don't meddle in our internal affairs.

Also China: We are going to meddle in your internal affairs.

The Chinese use trade as a weapon more than anyone but the US right now.

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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah but they didn't have a Trump as a trump card

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[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don’t forget that women and marginalized populations are now being discriminated against.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now?

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

More openly than before with even less recourse.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

You can shame them, now they wear it like a badge of honour.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

They can carry weapons also.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Arm up and say no fucking way goddammit

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