Doomsider

So they provide all the computing power for the Holocaust 2.0 but now they regret it!? A little late for that.

It is hard to organize an environmental movement because it has all been turned into politics. It seems everything has become political including health care now. I am beside myself just like you.

There are some existing movements like Garden for Wildlife though.

https://content.gardenforwildlife.com/certified-wildlife-habitats

Good luck and I think getting out wouldn't be a bad idea. I took my family to Alaska already because leaving isn't an option for us. At least I know we could survive here if we had to.

I never knew about the malaria thing, pretty grim when you consider how much human suffering it causes.

I agree that fertilizers and pesticides should be restricted to professionals and tightly controlled. Blanket spraying of fields, for instance, where less than 1% of the herbicide or insecticide gets to its intended target would be banned outright.

I appreciate your stance on protecting life even of it is sometimes inconvenient.

I am so sorry. This was predicted by Silent Spring. It seemed so far fetched at the time, but decades of overuse of pesticide have probably lead us to this.

It does start to make sense why all the oligarchs are so concerned about immigrants. They probably know what is coming.

Environmental degradation is very real, the Earth is not bigger than the problems we cause. In a lot of ways I think focusing so much on climate change has forced issues like water and air pollution to take back stage. Everyone seems fine with destroying our environment while either paying lip service to climate change or denying it exists.

We are here talking about RFK's insistence that Tylenol causes Autism.

Cigarettes don't cause cancer as many people who smoke never get cancer. They do increase the risk of developing it though.

Once again though, we are not talking about increased risk and nor is RFK.

I can assure you I take smoking cigarettes seriously. In fact, I helped lobby to end smoking in bars and restaurants in my town and I was successful in doing so.

I appreciate that you consider us on the same side. This often seems to be a sticking point and causes a lot of unnecessary postering.

While his comment might be considered to be a little flippant, I don't take it as the insult you did. We will just have to disagree here.

We used to enforce laws against media consolidation, but there was no law preventing the wealthy from controlling all media as long as it wasn't all directly owned by the same entity. This isn't the panacea you seem to think it is. On a side note, I do lament things like the end of the fairness doctrine from time to time.

I believe it should have been expanded to all media as opposed to be being abolished. Actually, I don't even think it needs to be a law if we had a strong culture of considering all sides of the argument fairly. Of course, that is not the world we live in.

Another poster brought up the Internet and how it was not originally a mouthpiece for the wealthy. I remember back in the days of IRC, bulletin boards, and then blogging. I can attest to the downward trajectory discourse has taken. The rise of social media turned the Internet from a playground for techies into a propaganda machine for the oligarchy.

I didn't mean to to insinuate you didn't know all this already. I am just talking and I apologize if my word salad cones across as arrogant.

The grifting continues unabated.

He wasn't being a dick, just pointing out that all mass media has always been owned by oligarchy. This isn't consolidation of the media under right wing, that is nonsensical because it happened since the beginning of history.

You say study history? What about Edward Murrow's warning during the Red Scare when the US disowned and kicked out all the leftist. Sounds like what we are still dealing with.

https://youtu.be/ZUMEq24tqtU

Newspapers were always owned by the wealthy and acted as their mouthpiece since the inception of this country which was founded on violence and propaganda.

I do see your point though, but it is important to point out the truth lest we fall into propaganda traps like "independent media" or "left wing" media.

Whether it was voter intimidation, voter suppression, gerrymandering, voter fraud, vote buying, or outright manipulation of the tabulation machines there is no doubt it was. Of course you could say the same of just about every election minus the possible tabulation tampering.

Critical thinking skills and being able to form your own opinion and back it up with evidence should be taught in grade school. Most people don't get an introduction to this until college.

Trump openly uses the autopen, you can't get this dumb can you? Oh yes, of course you can.