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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 4 days ago

Same way as an HDMI cable enables piracy?

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 161 points 5 days ago (4 children)

To be frank it's not Amazon's problem.

Its the content publishers problem.

And Amazon isn't enabling this, they're just making an Android device.

The users are putting software onto the device.

This article sets a dangerous precedent. That if Amazon doesn't lock the firestick down like Apple that they're enabling piracy.

Its not Googles nor Microsoft's responsibilities either. They helped, probably solely for money, but they're not obligated to continue to update their DRM.

This article should have framed how DRM repeatedly hasn't worked.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 50 points 5 days ago

The more piracy the better imo. And I don't need to explain why anymore, that is obvious

[–] gabelstapler@feddit.org 24 points 5 days ago

Amazon is already locking down the fire stick. A few years ago you could easily modify the software via adb, deactivate the updater, uninstall the menu. In the meantime they made it much harder, luckily I modified mine in time.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 days ago

They should just remove the DRM from all streaming services. The fact that new TV shows can be downloaded within minutes of airing is a good indicator that it doesn't work for its intended purpose. It just makes me find another source since I can't watch them using my preferred browser and operating system.

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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Piracy is morally right, copying from greedy companies that spy on their customers for shady purposes and take advantage of their position to impose unfair terms. If buying no longer means owning something, then pirating cannot be considered theft

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Piracy has never been theft because nothing is missing. It's not stealing or theft if someone takes a picture of my shoes and makes their own because I still have shoes.

[–] LavaPlanet@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah, not only that, people who pirate wouldn't have consumed the product, if pirating weren't available as an option. They've priced cost of living so high, and reduced access to content availability. When Netflix first came out, especially the streaming version, I bet there was a noticible drop in piracy, now they've made content access to hard, more piracy. They control the levels of piracy. It's not a choice to pay for everything we want to watch, or pirate. It's pirate or don't watch. And they created that situation, and then try and brainwash / gaslight us into feeling guilty and feeling like it's our fault. And then add in the moral clause, these companies are committing or contributing to atrocities. Some piracy is an attempt to avoid supporting companies that cause harm to people. If "wrong" is condemned, what about the wrongs that have caused them to be listed on boycott lists. Underpaying employees and writers, who should own the content. I think writers should be as famous, and focused on as the actors. The content being created currently has a heaping of "conform, don't think" built in, too, I could rant about that, annoyingly, for a bit, too! So many things.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 78 points 5 days ago

All pirates drink water. What is water doing to stop piracy?

[–] artocode404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Why is it ALWAYS the sports companies? Who cares about somebody illegally watching grown men try to prove they're better than other grown men that much 🙄

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Quite a reductive view of sport.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 20 points 5 days ago (6 children)
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[–] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

Why is it ALWAYS the sports companies?

Because that's the biggest broadcast rights moneymaker. Cable would be full and truly dead without sports.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 7 points 4 days ago

It's one half of 'bread and circuses'.

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[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

If Big Media is losing all this money, why aren't they claiming these losses on their taxes?

Is it because they haven't lost a dime?

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lately Ars Technica seems quite intent on losing any quality they had.

What kind of boot licking, inaccurate, non-news shit is this?

The only potential reason for this article is farming engagement bait clicks from people who don't know shit about fire sticks, and from people like us stunned at the stupidity.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 39 points 5 days ago

Yes focus on Amazon, the only known way to pirate..

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I still don’t understand what’s going on with the fire stick though. What are people actually doing to it?

[–] fluxx1@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Nothing. What people think and say is jail breaking is actually side loading custom android apps, which is actually already part of android. Amazon IMO made it more difficult than it's supposed to be. I installed vlc and stremio and use it alongside all the other apps. Nothing groundbreaking nor illegal. That's not jailbreaking, it's using Android the way it's designed to be used.

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[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 38 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Publishers under the impression that they somehow deserve "billion of dollars" more money than they already get for checks notes being a middleman.

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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

There is a difference.

Say you buy a used PC or android stick and want to use it for piracy, ok, doable, but you'll be doing most of the work. Kodi builds can get you there easily.

but compared to firesticks?

Firesticks have a piracy singularity going on. The entire secondary phase of cracking the OS and installing is intended for piracy. It's an open and shut, easy, one-two punch to get into the ecosystem. All of the hardware is easy to track and maintain. My cousin has a hacked firestick and he can't even open Microsoft Word. You can buy them pre-hacked with no real input or work needed on your part.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

So what kind of software are they running on there ? Is it more than a link to a pirate streaming site ?

[–] bigfoot@lemm.ee 22 points 5 days ago

You gotta pump those numbers up those are rookie numbers

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 6 points 4 days ago

Shut up ars you grass

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 33 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Internet enables most, if not all the piracy.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Poor service enables most, if not all piracy.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The mitochondria enables most, if not all, piracy.

One could say it powers most, if not all, piracy.

[–] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.org 13 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Mitochondria the powerhouse of ~~the cell~~ piracy.

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[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The real enablers are the guy who make the movies and tv shows in the first place. If they don’t make stuff, no one would pirate that stuff.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fuck yeah they do, I have 3 of them. I use Stremio for watching all kinds of movies (although I also use Amazon Prime) and even my older family members know how to use Stremio that's how easy it is to use.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Well my Fire TV has a Jellyfin app that's letting me watch shows not in streaming services or is impossible to get in my home country due to copyright.

Anyone else know the other apps that help make Amazon the ire of copyright?

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wolf Launcher, if you don't want to deal with the shitty stock launcher.

CloudStream is good if you watch anime.

The folks on r/piracy seem to like an app called Stremio, but I haven't got that one set up yet.

I have a Jellyfin client.

SmartTube Next is an ad free Youtube client for the firestick.

And then I also have Kanopy and Hoopla which let me access media via my public library card.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Stremio is almost like “piracy, the streaming service.”

It sequentially downloads torrents, on demand, in such a way that you can stream the content without ever having downloaded it.

It’s available on most app stores (though the iOS offering doesn’t have streaming, because Apple.)

Edit: I mean the file doesn’t get saved, it just pulls down the data it needs, uses it, then deletes it. When you’re done, the torrent data isn’t actually on disk.

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[–] albert180@piefed.social 24 points 5 days ago
Over twenty years since launch, the DRM solutions provided by Google and Microsoft are in steep decline. A complete overhaul of the technology architecture, licensing, and support model is needed. **Lack of engagement with content owners indicates this a low priority.**  

It's funny that even the techbros don't like them

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

yeah it's the one good thing amazon does.

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago

Old tech is holding the world together

[–] Goten@piefed.social 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

common android win [i edited my comment. i wont tell you, user, what i wrote. trololo]

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 days ago

This is just "android sticks allow sideloading apps". Nothing Amazon specific to any of this.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 14 points 5 days ago

Just leaving this here : https://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html

This is battle they can't win and it just makes everything stupid trying.

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago

Because the content industry is do destitute. They aren’t making billions?

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