this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2025
110 points (96.6% liked)

News

30926 readers
2613 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Apple researchers have found “fundamental limitations” in cutting-edge artificial intelligence models, in a paper raising doubts about the technology industry’s race to develop ever more powerful systems.

Apple said in a paper (PDF download) published at the weekend that large reasoning models (LRMs) – an advanced form of AI – faced a “complete accuracy collapse” when presented with highly complex problems.

It found that standard AI models outperformed LRMs in low-complexity tasks, while both types of model suffered “complete collapse” with high-complexity tasks. Large reasoning models attempt to solve complex queries by generating detailed thinking processes that break down the problem into smaller steps.

top 6 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

The eggs we put all in one basket just cracked.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s because they’re not AI.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, they definitely are AI. ChatGPT for example is a generative pretrained transformer (GPT) is a transformer model is a deep learning model is a machine learning model is AI.

It's just that the general public has no fucking idea what "AI" is due to being swamped in marketing about a field they have zero background in and have been led to believe is some kind of general intellect on the level of a human or smarter. In reality, a perceptron with one weight and one bias is machine learning is AI.

Since the start, what "AI" is has been fairly arbitrary; it's just the ability for a machine to perform tasks we'd associate with human intelligence. It doesn't even need to be machine learning; that's just one branch. The game Video Checkers (1980) for the Atari 2600 running on 128 bytes of RAM has AI that you play against. The bar isn't high at all.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The paper set the LRMs puzzle challenges, such as solving the Tower of Hanoi and River Crossing puzzles.

these are not highly complex problems.

[–] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago
[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

From here on it's going to be just more decades of, "Come on, bro. Just one more shot. My new AI that will be better. I've added another 5,000 Reddit pages. This one will be smart. Trust me, bro. Buy this hardware. I'll throw in some Bitcoin and a couple of NFT. Just one more, bro."