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The sub 200$ IEM market is just flooded with so many options that it's nearly impossible to decide on an IEM. Even when you narrow it down your sound preferences you have minimum 10 options with slight variations between each other. For example, some fit your sound preferences but have large nozzles which causes discomfort (Zero: Red). The IE200s are extremely comfortable but it took so much of effort from tape mod, tip rolling and cable change to be worth it. On the sound aspect, we have planars, single DD, hybrids (DD + BAs) with each of them tuned very similarly with some differences in technical performances and overall characteristics. Some of them does bass + mid well but lack in treble others do the opposite. The 7Hz Timeless does everything good enough but timbre does sound unnatural in certain tracks.

Do we have too many options with IEMs now that it causing choice overload? How do you typically decide on IEMs if you don't have the option to demo them before buying?

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[–] mogus666@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

tape mod and tip rolling is too much effort

First world problems lmao. Bro adding a piece of tape to a nozzle takes less than a minute, wym too much effort?

[–] Zernium@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Genuinely asking, why don't people just go for a TWS if at the $200 mark? I get TWS will die in a few years, but I also don't expect cheap iems to last long either.

[–] Saberknight4x@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Is 200 considered cheap? Cause if so I need your job, lol. In all seriousness besides the tws items dying in a year or two depending on usage the cheaper tws options probably have a lower quality battery that will have a potentially catastrophic failure (fire/explode) depending on use.

[–] BazookaBob23@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

They serve different purposes. TWS are great for portability and lack of cable which make them good for commuting and listening outside but they lack in sound quality.

[–] szakee@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

so, just buy any.

[–] Jaytiss@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Honestly, it's very hard to find trust in the iem market. My advice, keep it simple and buy cheap say under 120 or so. Great value can be had in the market.

A lot depends on comfort, if the cable bothers you, and a bit on scource gear as well.

Honestly, I listen to a Gizaudio x Binary Audio Chopin at work with an Apple Dongle. It's magical and all you need imo. Could probably even go cheaper for some. Truthear Red, or EW200 from Simgot are hella good for the price. Start small, then ask youself what does this iem not do for me?

[–] DJGammaRabbit@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm sold on the newer planars. My MP145 does everything I want it to. I would recommend that with an apple dongle as a first purchase.

[–] PipFC@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

What eartips are you using with MP145? I am using the balanced ones but I feel discomfort after a few hours.

[–] mogus666@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

tape mod and tip rolling is too much effort First world problems lmao

[–] theintention@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pick a sound signature, pick 2 or 3 with a good return policy, test em out. A LOT of these IEMs sound similar, you really cannot go wrong with just picking a few you hear are good and deciding for yourself.

[–] krish-akin-007@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Seems like the only option so far. Just have to convince myself to spend over 500$ to select one under 200$.

[–] PYRO_96@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Exactly,I am also stuck with this unlimited option for under 200$ IEM , since my first iem was the KZ Zs10 pro and wanted a good upgrade from that,but I am overwhelmed with so many options. Initially I was planning to go for aria but now most are saying it's not worth it now then I decided to go for hexa then I hear it's lacking in some categories. If only I could try all those IEM from my country,it would literally save my time researching based on reading the graphs etc.

[–] CogSci2022@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So just buy pretty ones. If there's waifu on the box that's even better

[–] mo_schn@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The waifu part is debatable (or not) but I was gonna say the same. Go for looks and comfort. These factors probably make the iem more enjoyable than a slight improvement in audio quality.

[–] One_Curious_Cats@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

We don't all hear sound the same way. So, no matter how many reviews you read or watch, in the end, you have to decide if this is the right product for you and the type of music that you like to listen to.

[–] Mobile-Bandicoot-553@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I like my blessing 2 dusks

[–] Gravexmind@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just buy used, and catch and release until you are satisfied.

[–] seekingadvice432@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Decent strategy if you have the time to monitor avexchange for a few weeks.

[–] porkupine92@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The situation becomes even more complicated when you add the subjective layer of EQing a new sound signature of recently purchased IEMs which you originally disliked. Case in point, the Tin T4 Plus with EQing its emphasized upper mids and lower treble, for a more balanced FR effect. Love them as much as my IKKO OH10 and Timeless now.

[–] Metahec@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

analysis paralysis

[–] EclecticEel@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago
[–] jcwhale@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I just picked up the Diokos! I really like them, they sound so good…. Except for the treble. I’m not sure I can get used to it, but I don’t know what to get instead :(

[–] MiyamotoKnows@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Watch Akros on youtube for the deepest comparisons and reviews (with graphs) of all current IEMs. I am a full on addict and have most of them in the $80-$500 range and then I have the Monarch 2s. If I can help advise on some that might match your preference hit me up. Right now my favorite IEMs in that range are the Letshuoer Galileo and the Tri Starsea.

[–] alterhuhu@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I bought smaller tips for the zero: red and a new cable, paid close to 100€ altogether. That being said if your budget is 200€, you can probably go for something better.

[–] toxicdrift@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

which tips and cable did u get?

[–] alterhuhu@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

tips: spinfit cp155

cable: linsoul tripowin zonie

both cost slightly less than 25€ on amazon

[–] ext23@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You have an IE200 and Hexa and you mentioned using the Timeless etc. Why do you need more $200 IEMs?

[–] mvw2@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

JVC HA-FDX1 when they're offered again on Drop. That's my go-to suggestion for something in the $200 range. It isn't perfect, but it's good and fun and very well balanced.

Unfortunately it's been a long while since I've played in the budget space, so there's tons of lower priced products I simply haven't used.

[–] nipsen@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You absolutely should try them before you buy. Unless your local hifi-dealer is a bit of a pusher, and uses phrases like "delightful sound", and "this step up in price is worth it in audio quality". Then maybe have them shipped with a return-option. And then test them out (preferably with different sources), without any pressure.

I'm not entirely sure it's worth it to pick a "relatively good+" IEM now, though. Or, if you buy something that is made for a phone(or that should also sound good on a small amp) anyway, odds are that you could get a better and lighter design, that would sound pretty much the same, and cost less than half. That's really where the market has changed - tons of really good IEMs exist, but they're generally all made for that same segment. So perhaps you should consider spending some of that extra money on a custom IEM with an ear-mold piece, or something like that instead.

Unless you have a nice dac and a good playback source, and you go .. by now.. and shop for discontinued higher Ohm IEMs, in what is still a very overpriced segment. There are some nice sets out there. But to be completely honest - I don't think it's worth it. Get those cheaper earbuds that actually fit and are comfy to wear, and then get a good headset or something instead.

[–] SharkFuji@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Through reviewers. How else would you without hearing them? lol. Find a few trustworthy reviewers with a liking for what you like and go off some recommendations. No one has all the time in the world to keep up with all the happenings in the audiophile world. The 10 iems you want with the signature you specifically want are probably side grades, just go with the one that's well reviewed instead of wasting so much time.

[–] EhOsGuri69@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Got the Olina SE as my first decent IEM and it's my to-go choice when I travel to this day, even though I have the Mest MK2 and the infamous Z1R. I leave the expensive stuff at home and it's more than enough to have a great experience when i'm far from home or at work. I wouldn't recommend getting a handful of sub $100-500 IEM's. You're just looking at slightly difference sound signatures and personal taste dictates the rest, it's a waste of money to buy a lot of stuff unless you really feel like doing it for some reason. And what would I recommend? Know what kind of sound signature you like and start to work from there. Don't get too much stuff. It's way better to invest in two or even a single very good IEM than having a handful of sub $500 stuff. You're not gonna have any WOW factor, just different sound signatures. Don't fall for the consumerism, this hobby is not about it. If you already have the Hexa and the Timeless, you don't need any more stuff. Maybe just the Kato, but that's it.

[–] Coelho-Branco@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Agreed, OP, so many options that it's overwhelming finding something. But I did: Aful performer 8 made me sell all the others. I kept only 7hz salnotes zero because they are cheap and I use them for gaming.

Just for reference, I really like the Hexa, S12 pro and the HD600. And I listen mostly prog rock/metal, jazz and classical.

[–] kenjikodai@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

yeah I'm having a hard time, I'm between aful performer 5 with timmy's "perfect eq" or simgot ea1000 but that comes after I replace my frickin DEVA pro lol

[–] Machinedgoodness@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Totally agree with this. But it’s nice we have options. Honestly I would start skipping into end game if you’ve tried a couple $200 ones. I have the Timeless AE (consider this over the regular timless btw) zero Red, IE 200 and I recently just got the IE 900 during the Black Friday sale. It feels nice to just know I don’t need to keep looking for side grades or slight upgrades. I got a feel for what I wanted trying the cheaper stuff but after I felt the IE 200 fit I knew I wanted that comfort but with top tier sound so I just went for the IE 900. Very happy so far.

Maybe go for the IE 600 it’s a great deal right now. Save the money on the timeless and jump

[–] Machinedgoodness@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Totally agree with this. But it’s nice we have options. Honestly I would start skipping into end game if you’ve tried a couple $200 ones. I have the Timeless AE (consider this over the regular timless btw) zero Red, IE 200 and I recently just got the IE 900 during the Black Friday sale. It feels nice to just know I don’t need to keep looking for side grades or slight upgrades. I got a feel for what I wanted trying the cheaper stuff but after I felt the IE 200 fit I knew I wanted that comfort but with top tier sound so I just went for the IE 900. Very happy so far.

Maybe go for the IE 600 it’s a great deal right now. Save the money on the timeless and jump