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[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but, is it profitable?

Someone has to ask the real world questions

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

If everyone gets tested yearly until they die, this could total as much as most cancer treatments and suffering combined and it would probably still be better for everyone if nobody has to go through that anymore.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Can someone clarify which blood test was used? I want to get tested every two years.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

just go to an oncologist and get screened

source: i did cancer

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 88 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

What? This BETTER not be US funded Research! I DONT want MY Tax Dollars going to THIS when there's SAD BILLIONAIRES still out there!

-LITERALLY everyone who Voted for Trump!

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 24 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Trump also got the covid vaccine invented, produced, and distributed. It was probably the greatest thing he ever did but now he doesn't even want to be associated with it. Alas. His lunacy knows no bounds.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yes and no, warp speed only needed to exist in the form it did because Trump had fired the existing pandemic response team.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Good point. On the other hand, Canada didn't fare any better even without firing its pandemic response team. I suspect project warp speed would have been welcomed either way, even if it was more important in this timeline.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Why should the world benefit from our taxpayer funded research? I want my taxes spent on training Americans so as to let the world watch (for free) fast running and swimming.

Am still waiting for a skipping event in the Olympics.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The world isn't benefitting from your research, you benefit from the world's research based off your own research, on and on it goes and we all get smarter and know more and strive towards bettering our condition, curing our ills and minimizing suffering and maximizing happiness for all.

At least in my opinion it's why scientific research while a truly neutral morally activity and generally done as an end unto itself - from a broadly humanist standpoint is a ga worth pursuing, even when the immediate benefits aren't seen by the shortsighted.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Even if we were the only country researching...

I have heard GOP politicians saying something like "why should we fund a cure for a disease and everyone else benefits without spending a cent?"

Why doesn't their national pride on the world stage extend beyond sport?

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Because that wouldn't make as much money.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Olympic gold medals don't make money. It is for national pride. Even hosting the games does not always make money.

Actually I am Aussie. 12 years ago it was calculated that each gold medal costs us AU$12m (so about US$11m in today's money). It embarrasses me.

https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/they-kill-us-for-their-sport-williamson-laments-arts-funding-cuts-20121115-29ejt.html

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I am no fan of Eurovision but it is good value for national pride:

Eurovision is funded by participating broadcasters and this contribution is a total of €6.2 million (£5.2 million), combined.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/who-funds-eurovision-song-contest-24173525

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Only 6M €? For an event of that size that feels a lot cheaper than I would have thought.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Don't forget that there is also income from advertising and ticket sales.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 21 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I thought cancer comes a goes all the time, wouldn't that give a lot of people false positives and a start to the cascade of healthcare?

[–] eletes@sh.itjust.works 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The article says they're detecting DNA shedding of genetic mutations. I think one example of this could be cancer caused by HPV should shed DNA that they could identify.

It's probably different but that's what I'm thinking from that line

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago

Look up extra-cellular vesicles. This is where the magic is.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 26 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Not really, no. It's only really cancer once the cells multiply uncontrollably. Yes, sometimes cells don't properly perform apoptosis, but there are other mechanisms that will target and kill those precancerous cells. Only once those other mechanisms fail does it become true cancer.

Besides, even if this test did come back positive, they'd still have to identify a tumor and monitor. If you have a teeny-tiny benign tumor that isn't hurting anything, the best course of action is to just leave it alone and monitor. Any surgical procedure risks spillage, which is basically human-induced metastasis.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That makes sense if I'm understanding you correctly. You might have cancerous cells, but it's not actually cancer.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 16 hours ago

Right. Like you might walk by someone with a cold, and inhale a small number of their virus particles. But your immune system can handle that. If you spend a lot of time with them face-to-face, the virus gets a foothold (because of inhaling more viruses, this part isn't a perfect metaphor) and starts multiplying, it can overwhelm the first line of defense and become an infection.