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Belichick is by all means at his lowest point. Is he going to come back from this?

Was there any HC in the history that reached the peak, got knocked down to the low, and managed to come back?

Andy Reid came to mind, but he switched teams. Anybody else that stayed at the same team and managed to come back?

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[–] lkn240@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bellichek is in his 70s. Dude should just retire. He's won like 8 SBs as a HC and DC.

Expecting him to comeback now is kind of silly.

[–] itoadaso1@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

He strikes me as the type of guy who wouldn't know what to do with himself in retirement. He needs to be a part of football in some capacity.

[–] CMDR_MaurySnails@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I have kinda been expecting he goes and coaches lacrosse somewhere as a retirement gig, dude loves that game too.

[–] Illustrious_Cancel83@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

At this point he should just be 'nationalized' by the NFL, given his own museum, and the keys to the HOF.

Also, he should be given a truth serum and we shall extract answers as to why Butler was benched in the Superbowl vs the Eagles, who was a better OC (Weiss or McD), who was the best FO (Pioli or Dmitroff) and who was the better WR (Welker/Edelman).

I NEED answers goddam it.

[–] conace21@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Marv Levy retired at age 72. He was not forced out by Ralph Wilson. Levy has said that he later regretted retiring and wanted to get back into coaching, but nobody would hire him. He did become Bills GM in the mid-2000's. He brought some class to the organization, but couldn't build a winning team.

[–] Tunatron_Prime@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] auradragon1@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Kyle Shanahan came into a rebuild. The team was expected to lose. In his worst seasons with the 9ers, the QB was always knocked out. Unless you’re referring to his dad?

[–] FloppyDonkeyDongss@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Come on man. Just let Belichick have Mahomes on a team friendly deal and he could definitely win.

[–] Shadowcaster_Spark@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Shula went 6-10 in 1988, going 0-8 against the other AFC East teams, and fielding one of the worst defenses in the league. Two years later he was in the playoffs with 4th rated defense. Four years later he had Miami in the AFC CG.

[–] trekfan1013@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I think Belichick is gonna retire for a year then come back. He's entering the "Parcells" part of his career now. He's good enough to rebuild a team then bounce to another organization 3-4 years later.

He wants that wins record and he wants to prove he can win a SuperBowl without Brady. He'll get the wins I think, but not the Brady-less ring. If these last few years have taught us anything, it's that whatever voodoo Brady was using was far more important than we thought.

[–] bigdaddyman6969@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Bill Belichick will forever be a legend and considered one of the greatest coaches of all time. But every year without Brady where he does absolutely nothing is tarnishing his legacy.

[–] ClassroomHonest7106@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Sean Payton had three straight 7-9 seasons then went 49-15 the next 4 years

[–] conace21@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

George Halas won 5 NFL Championships before he finally had back to back losing seasons, falling to 3-8-1 in 1953. Halas and the Bears rebounded with consecutive 8-4 records. He stepped down for a couple years, came back and won his 6th Championship in 1963. But Halas owned the team.

Curly Lambeau, Bill Parcells, Hank Stram, Tom Flores, and Steve Owen are the only other coaches who met the following criteria:

They all won 2 championships with the same team, and each of them had at least one year with a losing record in-between championship seasons. However, none of them were "down to the low."

Lambeau went 5-7-1 in 1933
Owen went 5-6-1 in 1936
Stram went 5-7-2 in 1963
Flores went 7-9 in 1981
Parcells went 6-9 in the 1987 strike season.

Interestingly enough, the last three guys (the only "modern era"/post 1960 coaches) all had the losing season the year immediately after they won their first title.

[–] ChelseaPIFshares@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

He needs to stop being a GM.

He actually is bad at talent evaluation. Drafting punters and special teams players highly is stupid. he got away with it with Brady because of the historic discounts brady was giving. a Tier 1 QB playing at a discount in a salary capped league is OP.