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Ive been running a home lab for awhile and its gotten pretty sophisticated over the years. About to destroy and rebuild. As such I want to document things and plan it all out nicely (I've been inspired by posts here!)

My problem is most likely my usage of a Mac these days. Visio doesnt work on the mac in a thick client, and the web client is pretty cool, but it's quite confining in terms of shapes. Curious what you guys are using with the logo'ed graphics for every vendor/brand etc. Ideally something free, but not opposed to paying for a quality service/software.

Thanks in advance!

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[–] DaGhostDS@alien.top 2 points 11 months ago

I use the Draw.Io desktop app, not the web version for obvious reason.

Use to do it on Visio.. But well Microsoft destroyed it.

[–] daniel280187@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Excalidraw, Open source, easy to use and no paywall. You can export your files and save them locally as well.

https://excalidraw.com/

[–] Bob_Spud@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For design documentation where detail is required - MS Word with some colour where required. Never saw the point in using visio or any other graphic packages.

A technical audience doesn't need a graphical representation of an object looks like. If they don't know what the object looks like they have problems. Virtual objects being represented by physical counterparts can be confusing and pointless.

Graphics are only useful for presentations and sales - it may save time in explaining what the objects are.

[–] modernDayKing@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

As a visual, technical person I see your point but disagree.

I don’t need (but like) the logos. I can understand the layout in hierarchical text.

But it absolutely helps me / is easier, to see the lines showing the interfaces connections.

[–] dcabines@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like D2 because it is declarative and I can keep the model in source control.

[–] reklis@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, this. I’m a big fan of the “diagrams as code” things like d2, mermaid, plantuml, nomnoml and all that. Obsidian has render plugins too so you can easily visualize things.

[–] learn-by-flying@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] mspencerl87@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lol 😂 that's what I was guna say

[–] Poat540@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] briancmoses@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Zeal514@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] PristinePineapple13@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

draw.io. you can save directly to google drive as well.

[–] mauros_lykos@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

draw.io. Not sure if there is a mac version (I'm running it on linux) but in any case there is a web version in which you can save (an load) your files locally.

[–] lukewhale@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] betahost@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I use Excalidraw or MermaidJS

[–] oc_netgeek@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

We use Lucid Draw. Great because it is web based and can be used on any platform

[–] ClimberCA@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I don't know what it looks like until it's done. 😆

[–] djgizmo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lucid Chart

[–] cylemmulo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Technically you can get a web browser version of vision but I’ve used lucidchart and draw.io before and they’re good. Lucid has good Visio compatibility, draw not so much

[–] wdoler@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I use plantUML. Its alright, gets you the first 95% of the way there very quickly but the last 5% of formatting is just impossible

[–] tablatronix@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Github supports mermaid to generate flowcharts, I keep meaning to take a deeper look at it and learn it.

[–] Leading-Call9686@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] jake_schurch@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Mermaid diagrams

[–] Nasach@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I use draw.Io that I self host, before that I was using pen and paper.

[–] kaiwulf@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Visio has been pretty much standard in all my work roles for rack elevation and network diagram drawings, so I use it for home stuff too