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Why Zach Lavine is apparently not held in high regard despite his elite stats? (alien.top)

submitted 10 months ago by VagabondReborn@alien.top to c/nba@nba.space

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To be clear I watch maybe 1 Bulls game a season so this is a genuine question. People don't really hype him or see him as the elite player his stats paint him to be. Last 3 seasons he's averaging 25/5/5 on 62% TS. Those are All NBA numbers. Advanced stats (EPM/RAPTOR) last season say he's a similar level to guys like Jamal Murray, Jaylen Brown, Anthony Edwards, Bam Adebayo etc. So he has the counting stats and advanced metrics that stack up to those guys but is obviously worse than them in most people's eyes . What is wrong with Lavine that im not seeing statistically?

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[–] bush_league_commish@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I mean other than scoring efficiently for mediocre teams, what else has he shown? Average playmaker for his position, not a great rebounder, not a good defender.

[–] insertdankmeme@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Because it's not 1997 anymore.

[–] c_ray25@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

He’s held in perfect regard

[–] Solid-Confidence-966@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Because his team isn’t that good, the same thing happened to Devin Booker for years.

[–] PanthalassaRo@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I mean he hasn't done anything that impactful as a whole

[–] junkit33@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Shitty defender, low BBIQ, stats are ultimately a little empty calorie because his teams don't win games.

Advanced stats are all rife with flaws and this is a perfect example.

[–] rudebwoy100@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

So he's the guard version of KAT?

[–] pinktwhite@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I firmly believe he could become a semi decent to average defender if he loses his first option status

[–] bullpaw@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

People focus on his faults a lot more than his strengths

and a lot of people dont realize how hard it is to be the primary option on a team for 7 years - when the scouting report is all about you, the opposing team's best defender is always on you, and still average an efficient 25+ ppg with practically no other shooters around you.

He's not a #1 guy, but he's elite at what he does, but put him next to an actual #1 like Embiid, Bron, etc. and you'll notice his strengths a hell of a lot more

[–] Le4-6Mafia@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/17w1mlo/hoopshype_zach_lavine_has_never_never_gotten_over/