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Anyone else hate how much layer 2s and rollups split up the attention of the eth ecosystem? It is terrible user experience to have to bridge from one chain to another if you want to use a new dapp that is only available on a chain where you don't have funds, the liquidity of the dapps also suffer, cause it is now split all over the l2s, and rollups.

Is there anything on the roadmap that eventually puts everything back in a single layer without the assle of having to use bridges, and where every app can actually be composable, etc ? Cause from what I read, scaling ethereum layer 1 with sharding is not in the plans anymore, so what is the end game?

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[–] djlywtf@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

one of unspoken points of rollup centric roadmap endgame is making all rollups highly interoperable, eventually abstracting the entire rollup thing on UX. you’ll be able to interact with all projects on all rollups from any rollup

[–] Transgroomers99@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

This. The point is not to move everything to L1, it is to make it so users don’t even know which L2 they are on.

[–] gibro94@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I think the end goal is to have all user interactions on L2 including on and off ramps.

[–] nopy4@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

L3 that unites all the l2s

[–] kinstinctlol@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

L4 that unites all the L1

[–] nodeocracy@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

End game is it scales

[–] Jupsto@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Check out taiko. Sounds like endgame to me.

[–] xnatasx@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago
[–] DeathScythe676@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

don't worry about it. it's ok, if things get too out of hand vitalik will tell everyone "Ok can you guys stop trading"

[–] AmericanScream@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Everybody loses their money except a few early adopters who managed to cash out, like all other Ponzi schemes.

[–] GrandmasGiantGaper@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

People interacting with the L2/L3's on an infinite scale, burning Gwei and giving it to the stakers in the ETH Project.

That's the goal of it all.

[–] yogofubi@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The endgame is that users do not need to know or care which L2 or bridge they are using, it will all be abstracted away into a seamless user experience of 'on Ethereum' I even expect most user experiences to be feeless as account abstraction will allow third parties to cover gas and any bridging needed.

The current situation is indeed very clunky and not a good UX, but the current situation is obviously not the endgame

We're early

[–] 0xzeo@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The end game should be 0.000000001 dollar transactions

[–] randominformation1@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

What do you mean by layer 2s and rollups? Do you mean new flashy cryptos coming out basically sequestering investor money from our beloved ethereum stock?

[–] suesing@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

To get everything to work better than Solana for the user

[–] lauchi1@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Eth user experience is cancer

[–] Competitive_Ebb_4124@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

There are some interop projects and thoughts about accessing cross rollup state and their basic idea would be to alleviate some of the pains, but one would still need account abstraction to be properly utilized to remove gas requirements. Furthermore dapps would need to integrate which is kind of a long shot. Overall it should get better, but perhaps not for everything and there will be some quirks as even with interop you won't have direct state atomicity for cross layer 2 operations. Asset oriented dapps will have to work in isolation based on the specific network's bridged assets. Unless they go another route which would introduce great latency to synchronize states, but this would break composability.

So to answer your question - the UX might improve depending on your specific usage. Most of the current dApps will remain kinda clunky to use. And the ecosystem is definitely not going back to a single layer any time soon as there is no viable way to scale and optimize execution costs.