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[–] Witty_Environment_68@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Probably old data

[–] sixseven89@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What do the red dots mean

[–] Lukainka@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Do you have the time frame?

[–] Jack_All_Master_Most@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah we’re definitely spoiled, considering this is a “bad” season for Kimmich lol

[–] drckeberger@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Havertz apparently just playing sideways 😂

[–] Carpathicus@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No comments? I am not surprised since almost the entire subreddit decided that Kimmich is shit now.

Imagine bullying him out of the club and he joins another top team - we would look so silly.

[–] Ferr22777888@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If the question which guys does most sideways 1 meter passes. Would be same stats

[–] Professional_Ear7173@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

German media brainwashed ppl into believing Kimmich was bad. He is still a top 5 midfielder itw.

[–] Jackman1337@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Only people without football knowledge think that Kimmich isn't a top 5 6 at the planet anymore. Sure he is no holding 6, but he never was and that's mti his role.

Let's play him with Pavlovic who is the exact player type Tuchel wants and we need

[–] aniiimaI@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Top right kimmich?

[–] Its_not_him@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Kimmich is an amazing player and I'm definitely pro Kimmich starting but it's worth reflecting on the fact that the pivot as a whole seems shaky when he's in it. There were even times when his partnership with Thiago looked worse than the sum of its parts

[–] ajdheheisnw@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Not sure how much this really shows other than the midfielders position and team playstyle.

A midfielder in a more controlled possession oriented game wouldn’t stand out here even if they were the best midfielder in the world.

[–] Theguy10000@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

As i suspected Kimmic's accuracy is not top 5 in the world to be enough for the main midfielder at bayern munich, and through balls vector is between zero and 4 which is not a great margin and kinda exaggerates the differences

[–] Cdsclaudy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] ninjastorm_420@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

next time some prem fan claims kimmich is washed....

[–] Ferr22777888@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Fatty5lug@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Cool chart. It would be nice to see even more breakdown like the length of the pass, where the player was when the pass was made etc.

Yeah yeah I get the point of the chart is to shit on the Kimmich doubters but frankly just like every stat, it does not tell the whole story. I think Kimmich has elite passing and vision but his overall game has weaknesses (beat a defender, positioning, defense etc) that prevents him from being influential the way our past great midfielders have been. He is at the prime age of his career and does he look like a prime Schweinsteiger or Thiago in terms of influence consistently? It is hard to say yes to that at this point. We absolutely need to keep him since there is no better alternatives out there but thinking that this stat somehow negates all the fair questions about his abilities is also comical.

[–] OnceIWasYou@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Ouch, Havertz....

Also, surprised Loftus Cheek is so negative in his passing. Haven't watched a lot of him for Milan but (even though I didn't rate him highly) that's not how I remember him.

[–] Playful-Dragonfruit8@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

kimmich is elite

[–] olbettyboop@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Is there a way to access this data?

[–] olbettyboop@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It literally says he’s in the top 96% for progressive passes and his stats for key passes were in the 90%’s as well.

[–] simianjim@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I want to know who the two players are bottom left

[–] Idoindeedexist@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I think we forget that Kimmich is absolutley not getting criticised for his passing. If I say someone has lost defensive awareness and you show me pass stats it means miscommunication

[–] errrkg@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What website did this chart come from?

[–] SirBennettAtx@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Rodri the 🐐

[–] luka379@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Anyone who thinks that thiago was anywhere as influental or good as Schweinsteiger, or even Kimmich, hasnt been around long... Sure thiago was flashy, but kimmich hate is outright undeserved, especially if you glorify thiago, a man who most of his bayern career couldnt provide an assist if his life depended on it...