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    submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by sanderium@lemmy.zip to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    alt text: Scene of The Punisher where he is desperate having a nightmare, captioned "When a tiling window manager user has to use a MacOS/Windows desktop"

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    [–] MyNamesTotallyRobert@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    The Windows file explorer is so goddamned inefficient it's astounding. For example if you have a directory open and you need to open a second window with the parent directory and put it right next to the current one, it takes less than 2 seconds to set that up with Nemo and it could probably be faster if I actually used a tiling window manager.

    The same situation, I timed it, takes TWELVE (12) seconds to accomplish in Windows 10, even with a dedicated gaming gpu and drivers which avoids all the stupid lag when managing open windows and clicking on stuff. How the FUCK do people effectively do ANYTHING on windows involving files? It's mind boggling to think Windows is the preferred OS for game development, a process where you do this type of thing CONSTANTLY. Fuck.

    Does Microsoft even do their own software development on Windows? Even a well-tuned Linux file manager is still reasonably difficult and mentally taxing when you have to do a lot of file management with ADHD but Windows is on an entire different plane of shittiness.

    [–] sanderium@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

    I feel you man

    [–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I’ve been working on my own macOS tiling window manager inspired by Gtile for gnome. I’ll probably put it on github at some point.

    [–] mnkhprre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

    Take a look the yabai it has a lot useful stuff

    [–] sanderium@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago

    That is dope man!

    [–] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    Installed komorebi + altdrag + autohotkey + fluent search on my work windows, janky af but "works"

    [–] Ooops@feddit.org 7 points 6 days ago

    As much as I despise Windows while also using archlinux/i3-wm as my daily driver...

    Tiling is no rocket science. Basically every stacking window manager including Windows can do it well enough to be usable with just a few properly configured defaults and short-keys.

    [–] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 6 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    Okay give me the short and simple. What window manager should I try. I'm using an off shoot of Fedora.

    [–] foxido@social.cutie.team 6 points 6 days ago

    Hyprland is awesome. Simple config + good out of the box experience

    But for almost all tiling managers I recommend you steal your first config from r/unixporn and then just adapt it

    @POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com @sanderium@lemmy.zip

    [–] crabonhead@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

    I quite like Hyprland

    [–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    BSPWM + lxqt/ xfce (lxqt recommended)

    You'll also need SXHKD for better and easier shortcut handling

    [–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

    Linux developers can't name their products any better than they name their variables.

    "Programming done, time to publish, now it just needs a name..." briefly pauses, then smashes face into keyboard... "There! ... ehh, no, still missing something." clicks random spot, types X... "Perfect! Send it!"

    [–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    To be fair, neither can enterprise outfits.

    Teams

    New Teams

    Teams (new)

    Probably more that I forgot

    [–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 4 points 6 days ago

    Neither can Nintendo.

    3DS
    New 3DS
    Wii
    Wii U

    Well, they at least got the name of Switch 2 right. They finally learned.

    [–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    For a long time I used the music player ncmpcpp. The name makes perfect sense if you already know what it means and how it relates to other things.

    [–] Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    No Cunts Music Player (written in) C Plus Plus. that's my guess

    [–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    It did make sense at one point. They implemented a music player with a daemon part and a client part, so from that you had the mpd server and mpc client. Someone wrote an ncurses frontend for the client, naturally called ncmpc. Iirc that person abandoned it and someone else took over with a new iteration. ncmpcpp. But it really is a bad name.

    [–] Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

    That's a cool story though. But yeah the name is a bit lettersoupy

    [–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 2 points 6 days ago

    I prefer KMFDM/XKCD.

    [–] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Will it work with KDE?

    [–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

    On KDE, I'd recommend getting a KWin Script for tiling. Krohnkite is what people use currently.

    It's not as buttery smooth as dedicated tiling window managers and it can be a bit glitchy at times, but it is better than one might expect and significantly easier (and likely less glitchy) than trying to get bspwm to work in Plasma.

    [–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

    Technically you could changethe window manager of KDE Plasma to BSPWM, but I wouldn't recommend it as it is such a tightly knit package

    [–] scytale@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

    Openbox. Simple and efficient.

    [–] traches@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

    It’s true, I’m completely broken. I can’t even use a stacking window manager on Linux, I’m instantly pissed off

    [–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

    Outlook has a ChatGPT tab now. Good times good times.

    [–] Obnomus@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

    Can confirm

    [–] Outsider9042@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    Too real. Haven’t used Windows in over 20 years. New job has locked down SOE laptops. I’m not even allowed to install putty without permission.

    I use niri btw.

    [–] nathanjent@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago

    I landed on using HammerSpoon on Mac with a script library to tile the windows. Certain apps take a moment to resize but it generally works. It's still not a completely mouse-less experience.

    [–] Sidhean@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago

    Using Windows feels like wading through mud. eeeuch

    [–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The real crime is how MacOS window animations take forever and don't switch input focus immediately.

    [–] dukatos@lemmy.zip 17 points 6 days ago

    And if you disable animations, you still have to wait for focus. But the worst behavior is when you minimize a window and later cmd+tab to it and all windows just lose focus.

    [–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Maybe I’m weird, but I prefer the animations. It feels more natural than things just popping into my view in my opinion.

    [–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago

    I don't take issue with the animations per se. They could be faster and transfer input immediately, and I would take no issue.

    [–] sanderium@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

    That is true, animations can make your brain understand that something changed position faster than if they teleported.

    [–] maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

    Wdym mouse? Might as well give me a touchscreen...

    [–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

    Mac has an absence of window management. it's like the product owner stopped thinking halfway through the desktop experience and handed it over to the intern.

    when demo day came the PO saw it and was shocked at how horrible it was but had to sell it to save their own ass.

    they opened the whole demo with, "I want you to think about this experience and stop, then...think differently."

    [–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I don't use Windows anymore but Microsoft Powertoys exist. And I have no clue why they don't ship it with Windows by default...

    [–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

    It's always my first install after Firefox.

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Because like most things made for power users: it confuses and terrifies regular users.

    Seriously, even with something as simple as Fancy Zones, regular users would get frustrated when they move a window while accidentally or purposely holding shift and their window reshapes itself.

    [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 1 points 5 days ago

    No one is "terrified" by programs and how exactly powertoys installed/integrated into OS will confuse anyone? You aren't obligated to use it.

    [–] Bonje@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Aerospace or yabai

    [–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

    I'm using Aerospace and I'm happy with it. Haven't tried yabai.

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    [–] Beacon@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    There are tiling window managers for win and mac too, so i don't think this meme makes sense

    [–] sudo@programming.dev 18 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    "Window Managers" don't exist on windows and mac. There's third party programs that re-position your windows. But you can't replace the window manager for these OSs. AFAIK they don't have a concept of a window manager. Its all one seemless desktop experience.

    Love to be proven wrong or at least shown an adequate alternate. Because pic is me in a few weeks. Goodbye slack, google, and zoom. Hello M$ TEAMS.

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