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[–] sebsch@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let Wayland not destroy everything and then have other people fix the damage it caused.

Here I stopped reading. This can't be more then a salty bullshit post with nothing than unfair assumptions.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The only one that really might have some merit is the argument about portability.

[–] hunger@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Small communities have a hard time staying up to date. X11 was ported decades ago, when non Linux OSes had more mind share and commercial backing. I doubt anyone could port X11 if that was the new thing mainly developed on Linux today.

[–] jeansibelius@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This guy don't even understand what Wayland is, but feels comfortable to judge it.

[–] Cralder@feddit.nu 7 points 11 months ago

My favorite part is where he admits to being mad without even knowing what Wayland is.

Edit: When I wrote the above, I didn't really realize what Wayland even was, I just noticed that some distributions (like Fedora) started pushing it onto me and things didn't work properly there.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 18 points 11 months ago

Ah yes, the uneducated FUD article again.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

someone jonesing for their daily Windows 11 advertising dosage

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This OUTDATED article gets posted all the time. The full story is the guy is a massive FreeBSD fan so he is trying to convince more people to keep on using Xorg because he wants to make sure it isn't abandoned. Reason for that being that Wayland is built with Linux in mind and would not work under FreeBSD without a lot of effort bwing put in as it uses some Linux-specific components or libraries.

Edit: Decided to write a response because I'm tired of this ancient and incorrect article being reposted. Please read it, correct any mistakes in the comments, etc. Thank you.

[–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago

Doesn't it get tiring to create new accounts only to post the same stuff time and time again, only to get it downvoted, removed, and banned time and time again? What do you get out of it? Do you masturbate to the comment sections?

[–] hunger@programming.dev 13 points 11 months ago

Yes, wayland by design does not let random applications grab events intended for other applications nor does it let random applications take screenshots at any point in time showing other applications screens. This requires applications to do screen sharing differently, and it indeed breaks random applications sending events to random other applications. That is basically all you wail about and an absolutely necessary property of any sensible system and it is very embarrassing that it took so long to get this.

[–] brunofin@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Boycott you instead, dinosaur.

Isn't Linux about freedom? Fucking pick a distro that uses X11 you like and keep X11, or build your own or some crap like that.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Imagine taking your unresolved childhood trauma out on Wayland.

And with a throwaway account no less.

[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 10 points 11 months ago

what's up with this? I see this school of thought bandied around quite a bit recently. wayland... it's a protocol. do they hate tcp/ip too? can they boycott that instead?

[–] nobloat@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Had me at "References >> 5 years old Chris Titus Tech YouTube video"

[–] Cralder@feddit.nu 7 points 11 months ago

This gets posted like once per week and this is inaccurate as shit.

"Wayland is bad, it can't run xorg programs"

Ok but there is an exact copy of the program that is made for Wayland. It's the same argument that Windows users use to discredit Linux .

"Linux is bad because it can't run programs that were made for Windows"

[–] rah@feddit.uk 3 points 11 months ago

Ignorant fool.