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Cross-posted from "TRUE communism!" by @Muaddib@sopuli.xyz in !politicalmemes@lemmy.world


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[–] Sphere@hexbear.net 59 points 1 week ago (70 children)

Always good to fight other leftists as fascism closes its grip on the imperial core. Great strategy.

(Posts like this aren't allowed on Hexbear, and for good reason. What value is there in shitstirring like this? Why be needlessly antagonistic? I really don't get it.)

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 53 points 1 week ago (149 children)

You don't get it we're not leftists, we're red fascists.

Also

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Tankies <---> Liberals. Same thing, different imperial branding.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I expect some spicy takes in the comments soon...

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[–] StalinistApologist@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The good old “revolutionary state capitalist” Often comes with some nice totalitarianism and atrocities sprinkled in.

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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's almost as if corrupt sociopaths are drawn to positions of authority regardless of stated values, and a vanguard party is no exception. Church, State, HOA, offer a crumb of power and bastards will say anything they can to snatch it up. The value of an organizational system has very little to do with its aspirations, and everything to do with the obstacles it erects to obstruct corruption. Build a dictatorship of the proletariat, and the proletariat will be abandoned by the dictatorship.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 week ago (33 children)

I understand that this is an anarchist comm, so you're free to post whatever you want, but I don't think it's productive to take a stance that fundamentally rests on misrepresenting what you're critiquing. Since you invoked my username in one of your comments here, I'd figure I'd give the Marxist stance its fair representation.

First, there is no such thing as "true communism." The obsession over purity in politics is a result of dogmatism and book workship.

Secondly, for Marxists, the stance isn't that you "do a state" and then "stop doing the state." For Marxists, not just Marxist-Leninists, the state is purely a body that resolves class contradictions through class oppression. It isn't hierarchy, and it isn't organization. Communism in the marxist conception, as a stateless society, is stateless in that once all property is collectively owned and planned, there is no class distinction. Administration remains, and is not to whither, as that's a necessary product of mass, industrialized production.

Taking that into account, the state can only disappear if all class disappears, and class cannot be abolished until all global production is collectivized. There has never been that point, you cannot have communism in one country. You can be socialist, in that public property can be the principle aspect of the economy and the state can be proletarian in character, but the state can never whither until all states are socialist, interconnected, and borders fading away into one democratic system.

Socialist countries like the PRC do rely on commodity production to engage with the global economy, as they must for the time being. They can't achieve a global system as one single country. As long as the state holds control of the large firms and key industries, and resolves class contradictions in the favor of the proletariat and against the bourgeoisie, then as the economy develops and grows it will continue to take on an increasingly socialized character. You cannot "declare socialized production" with the stroke of a pen, it's something that must arise from development. That doesn't mean the character of an economy that is dominated by public ownership is capitalist, either, just that it is on the "socialist road," ie it is socialist, and working its way to higher levels of socialization until communism is achieved.

This is all starkly different from the anarchist position, that we can develop from the outset a decentralized, horizontalist society. I'm not going to debatelord here, this is an anarchist comm, but if you're going to misrepresent the views of Marxists, then I feel you're doing a disservice by making anarchists less prepared to engage in productive conversation with Marxists.

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[–] Chookitypok@piefed.social 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, that was quite entertaining.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago (42 children)

Man hexbear is pissed and just can't help but defend their lust for authoritarians. Then ask for left unity when we won't want to be with people who uncritically support China and North Korea.

Maybe someday hexbear will learn better but today isn't that day.

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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The comments are going to be normal.

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[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (18 children)

Commenting on the most commented* post in db0's history!!!

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

(Can you see this? )

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45802317 This has more comments, though its mostly libs.

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