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[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Jokes on them. I do tons of unsafe shit, and probably only one of those things is going to kill me. There will be no accountability for 99.9% of the bad behavior, including unregulated hotdog intake. Suckers.

[–] Leet@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

Are the Germans dying in droves due to this?

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Ya well in the 70s and 80s this was what we as kids were given to eat.

I'm paying for that now

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 46 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I'm not a nutritional epidemiologist.

But I've started to get into learning about it in the last few months.

It's really starting to feel like this is a giant bullshit field, and as much as they are trying to find useful results, there's something severely wrong with how they seem to arbitrarily assign causality and correlation.

In a contrived example: "People who live near power lines have more cancer" - "No, poor people live near power lines because they're poor, and poor people have more cancer"

What are the kind of people that eat processed hot dogs? I can promise you they are not millionaires. I can promise you it's not people who can afford filet mignon but decide to have a steamed hot dog. It's not people who work out and take care of their bodies. It's not people who cook.

So when a study is done like this, what answer are you actually getting? probably finding out that the type of people who eat processed meat are more prone to these conditions for a variety of considerations that are just totally left out of the analysis.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

Basically: wanna live healthy and forever? Just become a billionaire! If you don't want to live healthy then I guess that's your choice to make.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Well, you're right and I'm surprised I've never thought of this before.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The EMF from power lines was a real mind virus that went around when I was a teenager!

I've been alive too long and have seen this pattern play out again, and again, and again. Feeling a little sad right now, actually.

For another example: all my life the common sense accepted wisdom, supported by real dermatologists was that to keep the likelihood of skin cancer to a minimum there is zero known healthy level of sun exposure. Well that's all out the f'king window in 2025 because we now know the deleterious effects of insufficient sun exposure are vastly more severe compared to an increased morbidity for types of skin cancer.

I don't want to be mr critical, but... there's something wrong in our whole approach to these "studies" and I don't know what fixes it. Any experts wanna help describe what I'm getting at with the right technical language?

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, poor people eat poor quality food more often but the food is bad either way.

Here's a good tip, look at allllll of the specific foods that a doctor would tell a pregnant person to avoid. Non-pregnant people should also avoid them, and processed meats have been on that list for a long time.

[–] queueBenSis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 hours ago

that’s not true. pregnant people are told to stay away from sushi because of immunity with raw fish. you should also not eat papaya while pregnant because it can cause premature contractions. you’re making a very broad generalization that the recommendation to pregnant people is completely nutrition based, but there’s many factors when growing a life inside you.

like in early pregnancy, you eat foods high in choline. that’s not because foods low in choline are bad for you, but because during early fetal development, choline builds neural tubes

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Try to follow the thrust of the conversation.

[–] dodgeflailimpose@lemmy.zip 13 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

sorry but one hotdog a day is not a small nor moderate amount.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

There are plenty of toddlers who'd disagree with you

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Right lol that’s an insane amount of hot dogs

[–] owl@infosec.pub 1 points 7 hours ago

There is no safe amount? What? Not even zero?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Be like a Harley rider - embrace your dangerous lifestyle.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So I have to eat raw meat?

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Mett gang assemble!

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 142 points 1 day ago (19 children)

as little as one hot dog a day

That still seems like a lot to me.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The hot dog was supposed to be an example. A more common one is lunch meat, which some people do eat every day.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Fair point. My kid eats a lot of turkey sandwiches.

Anyone know the conversion rate of turkey slices to hotdogs?

hello my name is Guy Who Eats 365 Hot Dogs Per Year, I'm here for chest pain

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 118 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It’s also important to note that the studies included in the analysis were observational, meaning that the data can only show an association between eating habits and disease –– not prove that what people ate caused the disease

right. that's just about any food study! it's the trouble with the nutrition field in general

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[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 86 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Everyone who has ever eaten a hot dog will die

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