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[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is now? The crazies have been anti-climate change/global warming my entire life, how is now any different?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? Where has this article been? They've been denying it since the 80s. It's just relevant to people now because their homes are being burned and washed away.

They denied climate change when the oil companies were making "reports" that it wasn't real back then and they're denying it while the 5th record breaking heatwave in a row melts their stupid giant trucks.

[–] VoxAdActa@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

Right? Where has this article been? They’ve been denying it since the 80s.

Over the entire course of my life, the New York Times has never once been on the right side of an issue the first time. They only come around 5-15 years after the obvious public sea change. Same with the Washington Post.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 1 year ago

When I saw the response to covid, a very visible threat, I knew we were going to fry.

[–] circularfish@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The grim irony is that a lot of the pain will be felt in red Southern and Western states.* When the power grid goes down for good in Texas in 15 years or so, nursing homes filled with a lot of these climate skeptics are not going to be fun places.

*Yes, pour one out for SoCal.

[–] prole@beehaw.org 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And they'll still blame the left. These people will never admit they were wrong about this. They will go to their graves claiming climate change is a hoax, even as the world that they were meant to leave for their children and grandchildren literally burns around them.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

And the left won't lift a finger to punish them in any meaningful way, so what difference does it make?

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[–] RileyNorman@midwest.social 19 points 1 year ago

Is this a Mitch Hedberg joke variant?

Climate is now a US culture war issue. It has been for decades but it is now, too.

[–] tintory@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is soooooo bloody pointless

Does the right understand if weather becomes more volatile, swinging from extreme heat to cold, it would mean cars will breakdown, pipes will need to be replaced faster and faster, house insurance will keep on skyrocketing, electric bills will become more expensive, etc etc

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No they don't at all. To them they truly are so dense to think these are just flukes happening one after the other. I heard someone say "It was hotter in the 70s" like it's some weird boomer pride thing, like walking uphill both ways.

Oh and by the way no it fucking wasn't. It was literally not hotter in the 70s, we've broken so many records since then, it's just how you remember it.

[–] prole@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Well, actually, they were living in Florida in the 70s, and now they live in Michigan, so for them, it was hotter in the 70s.

Logic.

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

Just in the 70s I remember sunscreen being less of a thing. My Boomer parents would just throw us outside and let us get burned.

[–] prole@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mark my words: that stuff will continue to happen with more and more frequency, and instead of conceding that it has anything to do with climate change, they will blame liberals and the left.

And their base (that they've manufactured over a couple of generations now to be stupid, racist, bigoted, and extremely opinionated) will eat it up.

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Just as an example, look at insurance companies leaving Florida because of climate change associated risks, and how right-wingers are blaming this on "wokeism" instead of acknowledging climate change.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TPTB that are pulling the strings of the right-wing puppet show are doing it deliberately, because they want genocide.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want an underclass. Genocide doesn't benefit them, but to stay in power they have to pander to a lot of people who want genocide.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd say the same honestly, but TPTB know that climate collapse is real and the planet can't aupport its high human population any longer, so they're going to want to cull undesirables. Resource competition at its core.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I won't go that far. They need the underclass because they keep buying products to keep getting them richer. They just don't care about the qualitiy of life of anyone below them. Quite literally they just said "Turn the AC up if it get's too hot", so dense and non interested in literally anyone else or what is actually happening.

If their mansion gets swept away in a flood they'll just build a new one. Won't everyone else?

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair, but consider what will happen in 2030 when famines are near constant and society literally can't continue to support an underclass. Then what will the ruling class do?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're already doing it, just build bunkers and wait out the uprisings! Huzzah rich folks!

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I remember back when the rich hid in their bunkers in New Zealand during the lockdowns. That revealed a lot about how humanity truly is.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

They don't care.

[–] michael@lemmy.perthchat.org 3 points 1 year ago

Just terraform the planet already, these troglodites are never going to change and we're out of time.