Community to discuss about Llama, the family of large language models created by Meta AI.
I don’t see the board backing down. We are witnessing the wanton destruction of something beautiful by unhinged ideologues.
I hope if nothing else comes out of this, that the public will at least be more aware and wary of the EAs and their strange crusade.
Putting aside everything else, we're witnessing the most significant labor action in tech in years.
ETA: Remember the good old days when Elon took over Twitter, in part because the workers had too much control?
How did workers having too much control result in Musk taking over Twitter?
Ironic if this was done to try to remove a monopolistic entity controlling AI and to slow things down.
Because now a monopolistic company has what it needs to control AI and accelerate in whatever direction it likes, regardless of any decel/EA feelings.
Yes, some of this know-how will fall over the industry and other labs, but few places in the world can offer the big fat checks Microsoft will offer these people. Possibly NVIDIA, Meta and Google and a few more, but many of them are former employees of those firms to begin with. Google in particular, has been expelling any really ambitious AI people for a while.
Done to make it a for profit venture.
I just hope I don’t need to use windows, or bing or edge later to access sota LLM. Msft is pretty scammy to consumers.
I wonder how real this threat really is.
Sam Altman is not the only guy who knows how to monetize things. Also these employees are sitting on 10M+ bonuses that they will NEVER get from Microsoft. At most they will get 250K-500K TC.
Definitely not true. Every big tech company that is in AI right now (Google, Meta, etc) will be offering great sums of money to OpenAI engineers.
The company appears to be imploding, many engineers who are at the top of their game are going to either stay with OpenAI, or move somewhere else.
Considering an engineer at OpenAI is getting paid around 400k right now (levels fyi), microsoft would be foolish to offer them anything lower. Its likely the engineers are being offered closer to a million a year.
Think about it this way: microsoft could buy out open AI for 80 BILLION dollars, or poach 80% of their staff with a million dollars per year.
Even if they hired ALL of OpenAI staff at a million a year (they wont), they’d still have only spent 700 million dollars basically acquiring openAI, versus the 80 billion it would have cost to buy them a week ago.
Sam Altman is not the only guy who knows how to monetize things. Also these employees are sitting on 10M+ bonuses that they will NEVER get from Microsoft. At most they will get 250K-500K TC.
Salesforce has issued an open offer to all OpenAI employees. They will match both salary and equity.
this is really really bad for the public
Where else to make 1 mil a year?
Can’t wait for the movie.
Here is hope for a Silicon valley like tv series, fist tv series created by AI and truly funny
Update: As of a minute ago, 700 out of the 770 employees have now signed the letter.
That remaining 70 either plan to work elsewhere or they’re delusional that they can keep this thing working with 90% of the staff gone 😆
What the hell? How am i supposed to believe that Ilya Sutskever signed the letter?
so all this circus was about to absorb openai unconditionally (agi comes to mind)
Satya already made the announcement that Sam is joining Microsoft, so it’s pretty much impossible for OpenAI board to reinstate Sam as ceo.
The board can resign but they won’t get Sam back, so I think at this point OpenAI is going to crumble and Microsoft will take in everyone
If they brought all 770 of them over, and it cost the company 500k/yr per employee, they'd have 30 years of headroom on that 13b investment in OpenAI.
But they get 100% of the IP for 50% of the price.
And since OpenAI basically has to pay back that 13b anyways, and it's all in compute credits, they won't use if the company is defunct, lol...
This would be a massive win for Microsoft, that same 13b they would have spent on OpenAI will go much, much farther and get them much much more now.
But they get 100% of the IP for 50% of the price.
Officially and cleanly, they wouldn't get a lot of openAI's data that way. Especially the parameters for the new models and a lot of the best training data has not been shared with MS yet, and unless an employee brings that through the back door, they won't ever get it.
Only if Sam sign a contract with MS, and it explicitly prevents that.
Satya already made the announcement that Sam is joining Microsoft, so it’s pretty much impossible for OpenAI board to reinstate Sam as ceo.
Nadella said tonight that he's OK with Altman being reinstated as CEO of OpenAI. Considering Microsoft's relationship with OpenAI, it benefits Microsoft. So whether Altman is in Microsoft or it's partner OpenAI is OK with him.
What is decel/EA?
Imagine the moment Microsoft takes OpenAI's market share, and converts not just corporates but also individuals to paying customers
Microsoft will absorb OpenAI and we will live in a cyberpunk world ran by megacorps 🥳
This is literally hilarious, so what your saying is that everyone except the board is just gonna move over to MS, and OpenAI will buy back the remaining openai hardware for pennies on the dollar, and kick out the ~100 that stayed lol
Well, if you applied to openAI before and were rejected, you should apply again.
It looks like they're going to go on a hiring spree.
I'm gonna apply so I can leave to join microsoft
This is getting annoying. If they are serious about it they can just quit. Why are we treating an industry like the Kardashians
me who just wonders who is on the side of openAI and closedAI
This is a giant cluster fuck.
Wouldn't there be some sort of employee stock sale coming up? So every single one of those is willing to run OpenAI into the ground and personally lose millions, instead of losing their fucking CEO? Wtf?
We may not have ChatGPT for much longer the way this is unfolding. Makes me really glad everyone on this sub has good local models now, as a substitute.
So this was the actual plan…cause a rift with the board so Microsoft takes the heart and brain of OpenAI without having to buy the remaining 51%…?
that. would. be. HILARIOUS.
Satya playing Game of Thrones and taking the entire kingdom (and moat) in one weekend.
Feels like Ilya got played. Microsoft wants to monetize but can't get past the non-profit board, Ilya starts to get pushed out, worries about Sam having too much power, organizes a coup with the board. The board drops Sam, a bunch of the other employees make a big stink about it. Sam asks for them to "kneel" by recanting their earlier statements and apologize. Board doubles down, hires a new CEO. Sam defects to Microsoft, which he might have already sided with, guts organization that has some sort of guardrails on it. Now Satya and Sam have free reign over the project while Ilya is left on the sidelines. A well orchestrated business coup in a similar vein to how Suharto in Indonesia gained power.
I don't think this was a planned thing per se. More opportunistic than anything.
The proprietary AI is still on OpenAI. Folks working for MS wont cant take GPT with them they'd have to start from scratch. Also, MS still has an agreement with OpenAI unless there were some tiny letters that make the agreement void in case of shitstorm.
Well scripted drama...to make more money
87% of their employees? 🧐
Looks like Microsoft played all along behind the scenes to harm/destroy OAI and played it perfectly.
Microsoft is basically saying sure, we’d love to own 100% of OpenAI without needing to buy the remaining 51% 😂
Can we focus this sub on local LLMs?
I threaten to quit too. I don’t work at OpenAI, but I’ll quit my job and happily accept Microsoft’s offer in solidarity.
Apple should just rush and acquire OpenAI just to make the drama more interesting
I think government wanted more control and Microsoft is more willing to rollover. I believe this is a setup. I also believe government is freaking out over the power of AI and want to control it. The powers that be did not plan over drastic productivity increasing tool in the hands of anyone that signs up. They missed controlling the internet and the personal computer. This is at least as big in potential.