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Harden and Dame outstrip Jimmy in most accolades and are generally more lauded in the media.

  • Points 25k & 20k vs 14k.
  • PPG
  • Assists 7k and 5k vs 3k.
  • All-NBA 7 and 7 vs 5, etc

After a certain point, the value of regular season achievements incrementally diminish. Jimmy has 8/9 all star calibre seasons which is enough longevity for me.

Superstars are viewed on their playoff performances. Legends judged on rings.

Jimmy corralled unlikely rosters to two finals and was an inch away from a 3rd finals, all as the primary/sole superstar. He’s shown this transformative leadership on 4 different teams. He dropped a 40 point triple double on LeBron in the finals, a 56 point monster on the Bucks. Harden and Dame don’t have this kind of playoff resumes.

I love Dame and Harden. And Steph and Luka and all three level crazy ball handlers. Jimmy is more mechanical and that translates well to the playoff squeeze. He’s two-way, mentally resilient and floor-raising in ways Harden and Dame aren’t.

Jimmy has achieved more with lesser rosters and should be ranked higher.

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[–] Worth-Channel-9237@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No wya someone who doesn’t even have a mvp is higher than an mvp and harden went up against the golden state warriors the KD ones and almost won

[–] GiveMeShadePls@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This is obvious, no?

[–] Xekshek33@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He isn't, but that is ok

[–] BrandinPodziemski@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Talk your shit

[–] Adorable-Physics-782@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Harden has better individual playoff stats than Butler. And regular season of course is not close at all.

[–] Florida__Man__@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Just upvoting this so I can say “people are saying Jimmy is better than dame”

[–] EdwEd1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You realize that none of them have rings right

[–] VARyVARyfunny@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

These three dudes have a combined 1 mvp, no rings and 2 finals appearances as a main option. It’s hard to argue that any of them belong on an all time top however many list. But it’s also even harder to argue jimmy over harden lol. Harden has scoring titles and assist titles and is a former MVP. Jimmy doesn’t fold in the playoffs the way Harden has many times before and he’s ofc got much better defense but the argument ends there.

[–] AP3ISAWESOME@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

💀💀🤣None of those frauds have ringss🏆🙅🏾‍♂️. They shouldn’t be ranked on any all-time list

[–] Aggressive-Ad-756@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] 0dias_Chrysalis@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] SimmonsClearsHartubs@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If butler ever gets a first option ring this will be true. But that’s never gonna happen

[–] Puzzleheaded_Fox4684@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Lillard, maybe

Harden, lol

[–] ColdCocking@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Jimmy Butler is simultaneously under and over rated. He kinda sucks but always manages to win.

[–] WorldTwisting@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Dame? I can get the arguments, it’s close.

Harden? loL

[–] HisExcellency20@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He's not close to James Harden. Love the guy but c'mon man.

[–] toadtruck@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Give Dame some of Jimmy’s teammates

[–] beached-blue-walrus@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Dame? Sure. Harden? No way!

[–] Neverslept2mins@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Is this just a bait post to get a lot of engagement? Y’all need to stop caring about Reddit points. And trying to figure out way to get Reddit points with troll posts lol.

[–] secretsodapop@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Prime Harden is one of the greatest offensive players of all time.

[–] AlacrityTW@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Jimmy just turns into Himmy during the playoffs

[–] Knightbear49@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The first ad I see on this post is from u/FactsOnFentanyl. Is OP ok?

[–] Independent-Army5899@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It’s a Reddit ad It’s on a lot of posts

But let’s pretend op is the sick one and on drugs for the post 😂

[–] Carcrusher3@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

"56 point monster on the bucks, Dame doesn't have this in his playoff resume"

55 points 5 rebounds 10 assists on 71% ts and 3 blocks in 2021 playoffs. Better than any game Jimmy has performed in reg season or playoffs.

[–] DraymondBeanKick@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agree with this.

I think James Harden actually was more talented than Jimmy, but you can't ignore the playoff stuff. Harden is a lot better in the playoffs than people give him credit for, but he's never stepped up during nut crunching time to single handedly win series against good opponents like all the other greats do. We've seen LeBron, KD, Curry, Kawhi, Giannis, Jokic, etc. do. Jimmy has done this on multiple occasions, while Harden always found a way to come up short against the Warriors or Spurs.

[–] Slow_Shift6252@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What team has Jimmy beat that was even close to the Warriors or Spurs level lol.

[–] hoopbag33@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Source: my diary

[–] KingNephew@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Easily over Lillard. But Harden he’d have to win a chip/FMVP imo.

[–] Maleovex@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You can't say someone is the better player all time cos of their post season performances and then none of them have rings lmao

[–] magnificentmeatwad@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Harden would’ve made it to the finals at least once, maybe twice, if he didn’t have to face the warriors dynasty twice lol

[–] No-Test6484@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

James harden is a top 5 shooting guard of all time…. Is he worse now? Yea, but prime James harden is so far clear of ‘playoff’ jimmy. If the heat were in the west they would have been second round exits. James harden peak is Jordan-esque

Dame is the second best shooter all time after curry. He was also in the west and his best running mate till now was CJ McCollum. Also both are Top 75. Jimmy isn’t. Jeez heat fans really are something else. I’ve seen a post that jimmy is a greater heat than LeBron 💀

[–] KaiserKaiba@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Lol at Jimmy being above Harden all time.

[–] ashep5@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Rangz culture is bad enough but now we got almost rangz culture

[–] Pole2019@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Harden is way better than Jimmy lol. Dame there’s a argument, but not Harden. No player is carried harder for their reputation vs what they actually are than Butler.

[–] LordHussyPants@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Dame sure

Harden had the 40 for 40 tour, took the greatest dynasty of the 2010s to 7, and consistently carried bums

He also should have had another 2 mvps

[–] NotAn0pinion@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You’re going to get a lot of pushback, but I’d rather have him lead my team than the other two

[–] JRclarity123@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Butler is the only defender of the three. Easily the best player overall when you factor in everything, including leadership.

[–] Alohalhololololhola@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Harden is an MVP. He is better than anyone who isn’t an mvp

[–] SportyNewsBear@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Boy, this is tough. I think Harden is more talented overall, but I’d prefer both Jimmy and Dame in the clutch. Dame might be even more clutch than Jimmy, but Jimmy’s defensive skills are significantly better than Dame’s or Harden’s.

Jimmy’s also less selfish than the other two; more willing to sacrifice stats for the team— a lot of great players get penalized for not putting up gaudy stats when they could if they really focused on it.

So, yes, I’ll buy into the idea that Jimmy is greater than either Harden or Dame.

[–] Mental_Two_3054@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

lol so funny

[–] Single_Passenger@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

For people talking about " playoffs Jimmy," his ass would've been swept with a blowout loss every game every year against the KD warriors.