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So the question is simple, who's the better player out of the two , Fred vanvleet or Kevin Martin, had an argument with my friend and he's convinced that Kevin Martin was actually the better player cause he could score better but I told him it's more to basketball than scoring , what do you guys think ?

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[–] AnyaTaylorBoyToy@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

FVV is better all-around. Martin could get buckets though

[–] TheMinnesotaWarrior@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

With the rip through move

Martin > FVV

After the ban

FVV > Martin

[–] ballerrrrrr98@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Kevin Martin was a better scorer. He had an imperfect form on his shot but it always went in and he was excellent at drawing contact. FVV is better in every other facet. He is a better defender, playmaker and rebounder.

[–] IHateYouKids@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This is pretty subjective.

Speed Racer was more of a foul merchant than Luka or Harden. Very fast with a money 3 and good FTs. He played no defense though he tried which is kinda worse.

Now compare that to FVV and make your decision.

For me I don't even watch FVV and it's still him

[–] ForneauCosmique@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Random as fuck

[–] SoupyWolfy@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I watched a lot of Kevin Martin as a Wolves fan and I'd definitely take FVV.

Kevin was a terrific spot up 3 point shooter. Outside of that he wasn't a playmaker, couldn't create his own shot, couldn't rebound, and most importantly... did not play a lick of defense.

FVV may not be as pure of a shooter, but he does all those other things better. KMart was great if you need a 3, but championship teams do not have turnstile defenders on them. If they do, then those guys are elite in all other areas of the game and not just 1

[–] radpandaparty@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Kevin Martin imo, dude was almost like a mid-2000's Beal, just a bucket. He'd probably average like 28ppg now

[–] pokexchespin@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

he said as like top 3 in 3s and free throws one season in the late 00s/early 10s, his scoring would’ve been even more appreciated today. unfortunately, the rest of his game was not very good

[–] AnyaTaylorBoyToy@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

FVV is better all-around. Martin could get buckets though