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[–] Morzan73@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Players salaries go up, more games are added. Do I agree with it? Not really. But do I sympathize with players making millions of dollars for kicking a ball? Fuck no, especially when most of these players are shit human beings.

[–] WolfingMaldo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This take is always crazy to me, I don’t think it’s hard to understand that injuries can affect your mental health and that billion dollar organizations can do more to protect young players.

[–] Comrade-Conrad-4@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yea uh, the players need to make a stand. Otherwise there will be more and more tournaments. It sucks, but they are the only ones that can stop this.

[–] Impossible_Quote_505@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Oh purrrleeaaassseee. Footballers are the most oberpampered, overpaid, spoilt brats in the world of entertainment, besides actors. They get paid when they are injured, get paid when they are sick, get paid when they cant be bothered turning up for training,for a couple of hours a day. Think of the poorly paid staff behind the scene before you start crying about footballers

[–] gostupid67@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If footballers agree to give up a percentage of their ridiculous wages then sure, otherwise they shouldn’t complain too much.

[–] Griz85@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Give them less money that will humanise them

[–] Rac2nd@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If only they were paid for this sacrifice

[–] atlacatl@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Has anyone ever heard of rotating players during games? Or what if you used the whole squad instead of playing 11 guys always?

I know...This sounds like madness and super revolutionary. Genius-like ideas here.

[–] grossexistence@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

"Products" like they aren't paid millions a year and won't retire at 40 with enough wealth for 5 generations lol, fuck outta here with this nonsense.

[–] gorgonizedbyurTITS@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Galatasaray and Fenerbahce will be playing their league derby on December 24 and the league's Super Cup game will be played on December 29. This is after both teams' exhausting schedule filled with European matches. Okan Buruk (Gala manager) brought up in one his post game conferences that this busy schedule does nothing but wears down players. Both clubs have important players playing for their countries as well. They basically get no break. The congestion in the schedule truly is awful.

[–] hennesch@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Okay. Then pay them like human beings

[–] WolfingMaldo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Is this thread being astroturfed wtf… taking wages away from players would most likely mean that more profits go to owners or companies worth billions. Rotating a player for a meaningless game won’t drop revenues by any significant amount

[–] CoolBlueGatorade@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Capitalism ruins everything

[–] NotADoctorSshh@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

socialism isn't any better

[–] AngryBiker@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not the players bank accounts

[–] CoolBlueGatorade@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

True to a degree but also they are not paid on a peer game basis. So these organizations can keep adding additional games and the players will see no wage increase. Not that I know of anyway but I’m not totally sure

[–] CoolBlueGatorade@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

True to a degree but also they are not paid on a peer game basis. So these organizations can keep adding additional games and the players will see no wage increase. Not that I know of anyway but I’m not totally sure

[–] Switchnaz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

let's start paying them like 99.9% of humans then.

[–] ripjesus@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can the footballer not say he doesn’t want to play this week or that week?

I’m sure there are stats to show he’s fatigued, tired, and prone to injury

[–] Velvet_Bass@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They do, but sometimes the manager doesn't really have a choice. I think it's considered unprofessional if a player without injuries turns down the opportunity to play.

[–] HarbyFullyLoaded_12@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Can’t believe ESPN said something smart for once.

[–] Birdius@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

With the shit load of money they make the demands and expectations increase. I have sympathy for an athletes' schedule. This is also quite ironic coming from an entity that is solely reliable on the product.

[–] patentattorney@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The amount of games the top players have to play is insane. FIFA + league+ 3 country cups + euro.

Has to be close to 50-60 games a year. And they don’t even really get months off.

The top guys are starting at 20 and doing this for 15 years.

[–] ananasvspineapple@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Internationals are just pointless nowadays. Could really reduce all those meaningless games from League cup to useless international friendlies. Who's even watching?

[–] Soren_Camus1905@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

We all agree and know this. The decision makers feel differently.

[–] Saltire_Blue@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Players should have it in the contracts they can only play a certain number of games a season or they’re guaranteed a certain number of weeks off during pre season

They should also bin pre season touring across the globe

[–] jeandlion9@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Obviously but capitalism says they are just said products

[–] Cocopoppyhead@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Ask Cristiano to treat himself as a human being a not a product or god.

[–] guidoharley@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

bruh their life are better than 99.99% people in the world

[–] not_old_redditor@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I too get treated like a product by my company, but for less than 1% of what these guys make.

[–] cockaskedforamartini@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I really don’t get how people immediately blame the fixture list. The clubs decide how often players are selected.

A club like Barcelona could easily stop choosing literal children as their starters, but they choose not to.

[–] hotelmotelshit@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Comes with the money

[–] Bosco_Balaban@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I will go the other way to the comment section.

The product is oversaturated and not as good as it used to be.

I don't know anyone but diehard fans who watch champions league group stages.

Less games, more importance per game equals better product.

Product can be players or the game pick your poison

[–] Any-Succotash-7903@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Ahh once the Barca players start going down, now these calls finally get stronger.

[–] AdrianFish@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Ok, so they’ll give some of their money back then right? Right?

[–] RICHAPX@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It’s time to accept they are human beings. To so many the wealth and life of luxury they receive apparently makes them immune to mental stress, injury and fatigue. Ultimately theirs so much money in the game between tv deals and prize money, their will always be a demand for more and more football and a demand for the top end players to be a part of it. We will reach a breaking point where such a large % of the best players in the world will be injured that it will affect match quality which will in turn hurt match revenue and tv deals. That’s when we might see a change

[–] AnxiousZombeh@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The issue is UEFA and fifa. They want a piece of the money pie that clubs get so try to make more and more competitions for national teams to play. And then UEFa adding so many more European games on top, players are not machines. The winter World Cup didn’t help either.

[–] NotYetUtopian@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

People are labor and all labor is a commodity under capitalism. Footballers are no different.

[–] ogqozo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I can't wait until the guy hears about what every other job looks like.

[–] Prestigious-Link7724@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yes please treat them like the rest of the mortals, pay them minimum wage, and if they under perform they get sacked no questions asked, no millions getting paid for being shit.

[–] Prestigious-Link7724@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yes please treat them like the rest of the mortals, pay them minimum wage, and if they under perform they get sacked no questions asked, no millions getting paid for being shit.

[–] zezeltin@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

That’s what the money is for

[–] Sr_DingDong@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They should stop treating themselves like products first.

[–] The-Disco-Phoenix@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

People are overworked in almost every industry in the world, why should we necessarily care more about the ones who get paid astronomically to play what is at the end of the day an inconsequential game for a living?

[–] zezeltin@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

That’s what the money is for

[–] The-Disco-Phoenix@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

People are overworked in almost every industry in the world, why should we necessarily care more about the ones who get paid astronomically to play what is at the end of the day an inconsequential game for a living?

[–] Sr_DingDong@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They should stop treating themselves like products first.

[–] stephennedumpally@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

When will be the time to pay them the money they deserve and not GDPs of countries

[–] LetsgoImpact@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Erm, the players were the ones that forced the globalization of the market in football (see Bosman ruling). Beforehand,football was much more localized with only the World Cups serving as a global show off. Now, it's a different market where everyone and their mother is searching high and wide across the globe for the next top talents.

[–] pilgrim05@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Classic reddit incapable of having a nuanced take. its possible for both the pay structure to be fucked alongside prioritising the health of fellow humans more. but nah they deserve to suffer cuz they make money than you.

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