cars will never be green. While cars have their use, we should limit the usage of 1 person per car.
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Good luck AmeriKa, you are way behind the 1st World and the fucking MAGAts will make it worse.
I've started listening to "Everything Electric" podcast and am increasingly getting irritated by the idea that the only solution is everyone getting rid of their ice car and getting an electric one.
I can't work out thats because it fits my rhetoric/approach (got rid of my car for an electric moped) or if I really believe it.
A study from tech company Hugging Face and Carnegie Mellon University sought to answer the question of just how much energy is needed to make AI images a viewable reality. Their findings show that a single image generation can consume as much as half of a smartphone's battery charge, approximately 0.011 kilowatt hours of energy
https://www.slashgear.com/1696332/ai-image-generation-how-much-energy-used/
Edit: wait is this not ai?
Obviously not, AI art does not have a cohesive style
I hate this car-centric society, but let’s be real cars aren’t going anywhere. Moving away from fossil fuels is a good thing. Not sure why we’re criticizing progress here.
It's because on the modern internet, everyone is all-or-nothing when it comes to their chosen issue. Nuance has become unacceptable.
This community in particular can get a little out of touch at times. In North America in particular, even if every level of government agreed to begin working towards a car free society immediately, we'd still be facing a decades long construction campaign as entire towns and cities would have to be restructured. In the meantime, a shift to electric vehicles is something that can drastically help the global warming issue, and can be implemented in less than a decade.
In reality, we should be shifting to electric cars in the sort term, while we work towards eliminating the need for them in the long term.
Also, I'm convinced that the brake dust/tire wear particulates talking point is the result of oil industry astroturfing. The brake dust thing especially is actually better on electric cars, since regenerative braking reduces the amount of brake wear.
Uno reverse : I really dont think these are all or nothing criticisms. If anything, you're engaging in that. Just because we criticize the proposed progress doesn't mean we oppose it. You have no room for nuance in your criticism of our criticism!
organic tires now!
Also ethical tire dust absorbers!!
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Its because EVs are being marketed as a green solution, not a stepping stone. If a car must exist it might as well be electric but we should be asking how do we reduce the cars that exist and their frequency of use. Building electrified transit and keeping ICE cars would as a whole be more beneficial than just converting all cars to EVs.
Building electrified transit and keeping ICE cars would as a whole be more beneficial than just converting all cars to EVs.
I highly, highly doubt it. I lived in the country with pretty good transit, but exclusively ICE cars. It was not good, not at all. Better than cars only, still not good. Good transit doesn't eliminate cars, unfortunately, and always breathing car emissions is bad, very, very, very bad.
The only solution is to do both. Right now I live in the city with very good public transport, but still sprawling car infrastructure, the only difference is, there is a robust car emission rules, so most cars around are EVs or hybrids. It's so, so, so much better than the first variation, it's not even close.
I would prefer city getting rid of most of the car-centric infrastructure still, but now I have a chance to see this day, and not die of a lung cancer at a ripe age of 55
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This, to me, just seems like it's trying to give permissions to ICE car owners not to change anything.
It definitely is not that. However, it is a reminder that, even with electric vehicles, there is a serious, environmental and social impact.
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Ah, well if an improvement isn't perfect, we should definitely reject it and continue using the worst possible version until a perfect one is created
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Electric cars also reduce particulate dust. Because of regenerative braking they need to brake less often and less agressive. There was a study published just kadt week.
But they increase particulate tire dust due to being heavier.
Yes, but it seems from the study that the increase in tire dust is smaller than the refuction in brake dust
Brakes are iron and copper, the latter is an environmental contaminant. But tires pollute zinc and a hundred other petrochemicals. One is causing big problems with fish - 6PPD, but there are likely others causing yet unseen damage. Between the two brake dust seems more manageable in stormwater.
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Had the right idea but lost me at the end. Better is better. We can both electrify and work to move away from automobiles at the same time. We should not divide a group of people with common interest in a better tomorrow. To do so is how we lose.