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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Okay, look. Atoms, in all their wonder make up pretty much everything known to exist in the universe. Chemistry, the science of chemicals, is just taking that understanding we have of atoms and applying it to how the atoms interact based on what atoms are there, their charges, bonds, etc.

Thus unless it's on the periodic table, where it would be an element, then it's a chemical.

Even assuming that instead of "chemicals", people mean synthetic chemicals.... To that I say... Who cares?

Synthetic chemicals come in two forms: a synthesized version of a chemical that is naturally occurring, where synthesis is a more commercially viable way to obtain that chemical, or a chemical that isn't found naturally, which undergoes significant scrutiny before anyone is allowed to put it in your food and sell it to you.

We generally give "natural" chemicals less scrutiny than synthetic chemicals. And I'll remind everyone that cyanide is a naturally occurring chemical. Though it's natural, we don't general add that to our food. Some food contains cyanide naturally, like cherry pits, but that's usually a part we don't eat.

The WHO has a whole article about toxins in food... https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/natural-toxins-in-food

So yeah, it might be made of synthetic chemicals, which have been researched, scrutinized, and peer reviewed before being approved for consumption and being put in my food. I can't say the same for literally anything "natural". We just ate that shit and if you died from eating a thing, nobody else ate that thing. And that was the way of things before modern science and chemicals...

So fuck you, and the horse you rode in on.

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[–] JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Everything is made of chemicals.

[–] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

You always gotta check the chemicals to make sure they didn't sneak dairy in for some reason.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I saw a bumper sticker that said "Do you eat GMO food?" me being smart ass and liking history said yes. Damned near all food humans eat at scale has been modified through artificial selection, at least if it's in a lab we are less likely to inbred the plant so badly that they are effectively a clone species. Also I thought of cows when I read that sticker a notable downgrade from the might aurochs.

[–] ndru@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But nobody means selective breeding when they say GMO. That term emerged specifically to describe the products of genetic engineering. There a plenty of legitimate concerns.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sure but I've legit heard people call selectively breed things GMO because it was exceptionally specific and broad in its effects. Also I am not going to take some of these bumper sticker types seriously until I stop seeing non-GMO stickers on inorganic products like salt or water.

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[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

Ehhh, I've heard people say the covid vaccine was genetic modification. It's just too vague a term to be actually useful.

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