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didn't we all grow up needing to be secretive? is it because of the adage of how 'everyone thinks women are hot' so like even straight women would get turned on more by their own moaning?

like as a guy i don't even...have the impulse to involve my voice in it at all

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[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I always thought it was purely social conditioning, but I've got a theory that just popped in my head. I wonder if women need to be more vocal to communicate "Yes that's good, keep doing that"? Like frankly my partner is often in charge of pace, depth, and even calling for position changes. I'm letting him know with my noises how good something is for me, If you should keep doing it, or if I get quiet he knows to try something different. I don't mind him being quiet at all, until I'm on top and then I'm like I literally cannot tell if this is good for you. I have to ask out loud "is that good?" And then change something, "is that good?" After a blow-job I have to ask him, what parts did you like more than the other parts? Obviously I can tell he's into it overall, but It's really hard to know if a rhythm or amount of pressure is better than another if moaning doesn't increase when you try something. Like he can absolutely tell when he hits a good spot when fingering me because my moans make it very obvious. I will straight say, "yes," "please," "right there," "don't move." All kinds of stuff. It's not just about making it hotter for the other person, it's about communicating how good something is for you so they don't have to do as much guessing

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just figured the guy's concentrating on keeping up the good work without blowing it.

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah. I mean if he's blowing it the she probably feels left out.

[–] CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz 13 points 10 months ago

I've also always thought it may have to do with social conditioning, but possibly on a non-sexual level. My thought is that guys are (generally) conditioned to be more quiet about intimate things, or things that are good, and more loud in "aggressive" situations. This fits well with the factual observation that men are less likely to talk about personal problems with a friend, and more likely to push the boundaries (be vocal) in an interview. In my head, it's an extension of the "strong, silent" stereotype, which is often regarded as positive. Women, on the other hand, are (typically) socially conditioned to be more vocal about feelings in general. I wouldn't be surprised if these conditionings bleed over into how vocal people are during sex.

With that said: I'm a guy, and my gf likes it when I make noises. Once I got used to it, I also learned to enjoy grunting. Grunting is highly recommended.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I make some noise, no idea how enjoyable it is for the other person, mostly alot of grunting or abusive language. It gets comedic when I’m like, “Yeah bitch, I’m gonna fuck that pussy all night.” Then I cum like 10 seconds later.

[–] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (19 children)

This is why lesbians have better sex.
You have fingers and a mouth, you don't need to stop fucking all night after you cum.

[–] misophist@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (6 children)

As a straight, I wish I had fingers and a mouth. At least I can have multiple orgasms. Suck it, penis-owners!

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago

Suck it, penis-owners!

Look, if we could we would, but then you'd never see us again.

[–] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

As a straight, I wish I had fingers and a mouth.

Words cannot describe my confusion.

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[–] Guest_User@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (5 children)

As a straight male, I too have fingers and a mouth

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[–] jcrabapple@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago

This is the funniest honesty I've heard in a long time. Thank you.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Dude, got a tip for you. Make some noise. She'll love it.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

She likes it when I do the Bob Ross voice

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[–] phubarr@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] flicker@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

Thank you for posting this. I knew a woman's orgasm had a purpose in insemination but vocalizations indicating the best time for male ejaculation makes sense.

And about a billion times more sense than some of the nonsense posted in this thread.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A lot of that bs has been disproven. Orgasm plays next to no reproductive function (beyond, ya know, incentivising us to wanna bone)

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[–] outcide@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

On the other hand, recent studies have indicated that most copulatory vocalizations in women do not accompany their own orgasm, but rather their partner's ejaculation. The study showed that the man typically finds the woman's vocalization arousing and highly exciting, and that the woman herself is aware of this.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Vocalizations can be used intentionally by women in order to boost the self-esteem of their partner and to cause quicker ejaculation.

Ha, name a woman that hasn't done this to hurry along bad sex.

[–] corruptmagician@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Try it sometime, my wife loves it and I grew to not be shy about it. There is something about letting out moans and noises that makes sex so much better.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

I started screaming. It's basically a heavy metal concert in our room now.

[–] H_Interlinked@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Hell yeah, brother. Helps you get into that primal mode.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm just here for the wont

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[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You guys are all over thinking this. A lot. I'm pretty sure it's because basically all porn has a very loud female role and a near silent male role. There's been lots of studies on how porn affects people's actual sex lives. Vocalization is a part of that. Girls watch it in formative years, learn "This must be what my partner will find hot," just like tons of other emulated behavior from other media. Boys do the same.

[–] zwaetschgeraeuber@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

my gf loves it when i make noise

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 12 points 10 months ago

Same reason dogs don't bark when they chase the mail truck.

[–] jray4559@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Porn has done it for dozens of years at this point, and it has just become not only an expectation, but just a thing that gets picked up.

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[–] PhineaZ@feddit.de 8 points 10 months ago

See moaning and panting and the softly whispered "fuuuuucky yes" more as a means of expressing arousal and excitement. My SO is fairly vocal (involuntarily, I love it), but I had to learn it first. It really feels good tho', I suppose it depends on what your partner wants/likes?

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Before I transitioned I was pretty much silent. Hormones affected that some, but I have to say I got way more vocal post-op. First time I got it in the vagina I was quite loud.

I think some of it is just what genitals people are rocking.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As a trans woman, I noticed it started happening fully unintentionally after HRT. It's anecdotal, but makes me feel like there's definitely a chemical component because it actually surprised me.

[–] Nima@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I wonder how much of that is placebo effect.

[–] kattenluik@feddit.nl 8 points 10 months ago

My honest guess is all of it

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[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I grunt and moan to signify my effort and enjoyment.

[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

gonna agree with conditioning - we've been indoctrinated (by society) to behave in certain ways - like "men dont cry", etc (they do). people acting in certain ways in certain situations is normal - and expected. we've been programmed to expect it and respond to it.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

I find myself trying to pay attention to how she responds.

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