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[–] mcmoose1900@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Lol the header image is pretty good.

[–] Merchant_Lawrence@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Another freindly reminder to not just host you model on single host, this bit worrying but nevertless backup your favorite model if you model have to much sensitive stuff.

note : HF reportedly block in china

[–] mpasila@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

gotta start torrenting models

[–] lopgir@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You could write a magnet link into the HF description, would make for an easy switch if it gets erased, people back things up.

[–] Fheredin@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm surprised model torrenting isn't more of a thing. The most legit use-cases possible for torrents are to pass around Linux ISOs and AI models.

You would think HF would realize they can save a ton of bandwidth by posting a magnet link alongside the download button.

[–] frozen_tuna@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Funny. I can/will seed the hell out of some models when this happens.

[–] ninjasaid13@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

note : HF reportedly block in china

iirc China has their own version of huggingface. Modelscope?

[–] CheatCodesOfLife@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If HF is blocked there, how are we getting models like Yi and QWEN?

[–] DsutetcipE@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Disappointing

[–] Sabin_Stargem@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I am predicting someone using an AI model to have Xi-Pooh singing, and spilling a pot called China in the thumbnail.

[–] a_beautiful_rhind@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I think so-vits-SVC is also Chinese made. HF for some reason was scared of gpt-4chan before this. I'm surprised as much stays up on it as it does.

404 media has also posted some scaremongering AI articles before. Their aim is to probably discredit HF like they discredit funders for several OSS projects here: https://www.404media.co/404-media-podcast-week-13-a16z-funds-civitai/

[–] perlthoughts@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

dont comply, then get banned by the ccp in china its really that simple.

[–] Rude-Sentence-9670@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They're already banned in China.

[–] vatsadev@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Sad, and we thought HF was the harbor of unaligned models, but maybe im missing the whole story. Hopefully they dont kill models for saying taiwan good or something

[–] No-Ordinary-Prime@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Well genocide Joe deserves all the hate possible for his support for terrorism and crimes against humanity

[–] SituatedSynapses@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I guess will have to make a singing Winnie the Pooh model now, same thing.

[–] starstruckmon@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The whole GPT-4chan fiasco should have already alerted people about who these people are.

[–] Emotional-Dust-1367@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m out of the loop. What was this fiasco?

[–] starstruckmon@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Back in the early days, they deleted a model because it didn't suit their delicate sensibilities.

https://youtu.be/efPrtcLdcdM?si=fAKXSvDxG81VLl7Q

[–] ex0thrmic@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looks like I'm backing up the models I like to use. Call me paranoid but this is what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket.

[–] Prince_Noodletocks@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That isn't paranoid at all. I backup everything to two 18TB HDDs everytime I make a new SD LoRA or train an SVC/RVC voice clone.

[–] Rememberrmyname@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I appreciate people like you

[–] parasocks@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As an aside, these huge HDD sizes are cool and all, but it's soooooo much data to trust on one or two drives, it's wild

[–] teleprint-me@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not alone. 🫠

[–] alraban@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Generally the larger disks have similar failure rates to smaller onces, which means that, if you're running a storage array, increasing the number of drives actually increases your chances of experiencing a failure, even assuming the best case that drive failures are statistically independent events, which they are not.

Larger drives also make keeping full backups much easier (i.e. entire backup fits on a single disk, which makes it easier to make and store).

[–] RobotToaster44@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm guessing they received a complaint about the Xi Jinping one, but not the Biden one?

[–] parasocks@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You see that's the interesting thing about China, and in fact literally all "conspiracy theories" around the world.

People think of conspiring as sat around a table and talked, or had a phone call together, or e-mailed with each other, etc. That a group of people agreed on something together, and then went forward with their evil plots.

But in reality, almost everything that happens like this is because the expectation is assumed.

ie: China doesn't need to say anything to HuggingFace to get them to do this. HuggingFace already knows what China expects of them. They don't need to ask. They don't need to be told. They already know.

[–] Significant-Chip-703@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

NYT have written plenty of stories on that, it's just nobody gives a shit

https://www.google.com/search?q=hunter%20Biden%20laptop%20new%20York%20times

[–] 8309312feaa9aa4f4628@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That scans. I think Disney owns the copyright for Winnie the Pooh.

[–] AsliReddington@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

By that logic every LLM put there will engage in talk about Xi

[–] Feztopia@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Someone should merge the two models.

[–] alcalde@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It would be like Winne the Pooh but with ice cream instead of honey.

[–] HenkPoley@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

"In the USA you can go to Central Park in New York and shout that you really hate president Biden, and you are free to do that. They call that free speech."

"Well, you also have free speech in China. You are also free to do that in Chaoyang Park in Beijing. You can shout you hate Biden there as well."

[–] omniron@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hugging face makes me nervous. There’s no way they’re making money now and at some point they’re going to lock down all their goodies behind a paywall

[–] odaman8213@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

IPFS HF competitor when?

[–] afinlayson@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn’t this called democracy … we should remember this when you see any politician in any country trying to silence press, or comedians. Cause they’ll definitely remove LLMs or models that make them look or sound bad.

[–] KeyboardSurgeon@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Is china a democracy?