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    [–] TetHead@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

    OK I am more of a baby Penguin here, why do people hate Snap and Flatpack?

    [–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Snap made me switch back to Debian. Ubuntu was awesome for a long time, but having snap glommed onto everything so much that it kept showing up on my headless boxes was too much.

    [–] plague_sapiens@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Flatpak ftw!

    [–] NoisyFlake@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
    [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago
    [–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    At least we have Mint and Kubuntu

    [–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Kubuntu removed Flatpaks in favour of Snaps

    [–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

    Mint for the win! I really hope they make LMDE the main branch in the longer term.

    [–] sirico@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    df -h hates this one simple trick

    [–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I want to be high and mighty and dislike Snaps for all the technical reasons but the single most irritating thing is definitely all the loopback devices.

    [–] lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Followed closely by ~/snap

    [–] Octopus1348@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 year ago

    WHY NOT .SNAP?? IT'S ONE FCKING DOT

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I haven't had any issues with the few snaps I use so far

    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I haven't had any issues with the few snaps I use so far

    My grandpa used to say something like the idea that he never had problems with the 'few' times he drove home drunk so far. Then he ran someone over.

    It's better to understand something is an avoidable risk BEFORE you're shown graphically.

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Yes, snaps are just like manslaughter

    [–] bear@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Me reacting to analogies with "Did you know these two things are not completely identical?", completely unburdened by the knowledge that I'm supposed to explain how the differences invalidate the comparison.

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Driving drunk is factually stupid
    Snaps are not
    It's a bad analogy

    [–] bear@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I'd argue it's pretty stupid to use FOSS but then depend on a proprietary server that only one for-profit company is allowed to run to deliver all that software, trusting them to just never do wrong or leave you high and dry. I'd also argue it fits the analogy perfectly, because the analogy was about saying "I haven't had a problem yet" in response to being shown the potential problems of the action.

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    But the problem with snaps is an opinion. If Canonical goes bonkers I'll just go use something else. Until then I don't have any issues with them using proprietary software within their own ecosystem.

    [–] bear@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It's not an opinion that proprietary for-profit software will betray you, it is an inevitability. It has happened every single time. If it was FOSS, we could salvage it. It's proprietary, so we can't. When it fails it must simply be abandoned. I just hope you learn the right lesson when this happens.

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] bear@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    WinRAR will either die, or be sold and squeezed by its new owners. Nobody lives forever and no asset goes unflipped in this market. You can say you won't update, but that just leaves you vulnerable.

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Lasted longer than a lot of foss projects lol

    [–] bear@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

    If I were to list every FOSS project that has lasted longer, I'd have to spend all day writing the post. winRAR is unique in that it's one of the only pieces of long-lasting proprietary software that didn't die or turn to crap. Such things are not unique or even rare in FOSS.